2015 Oklahoma Commercial Aviation Discussion

[catch22]

The U.S. Marshals operates a fleet of Saab 2000's to supplement their 737 fleet.

[Jeepnokc]

The U.S. Marshals operates a fleet of Saab 2000's to supplement their 737 fleet.

Winner Winner! That was the plane. would also explain why it didn't have any markings. Thanks Catch. It came in from the east over the area just south of SW 44 and banked hard to south to land. Seemed odd as most of the commercial planes I see and fly seem to fly over a little further north of SW 15th street before turning

[OUman]

I guess Love Field is about to get pretty congested. And then there's "feud" between DL and WN:

Dallas News

[PhiAlpha]

I guess Love Field is about to get pretty congested. And then there's "feud" between DL and WN:

Dallas News

I'm actually sitting at Love Field right now. They've been running the full schedule for about 4-6 months now and while it's definitely more crowded, I've never spend much time waiting in lines here. It will still get more crowded but it seems rebuilt well to handle it.

[Richard at Remax]

https://twitter.com/fly_okc/status/631105556946620417

Allegiant air to start 2 flights daily to Las Vegas beginning Nov 5

[LakeEffect]

Interesting in-depth report from an aviation fansite about AA's Tulsa ops: Inside the World's Largest Airline Owned Maintenance & Engineering Base: American Airlines Tulsa

[gopokes88]

https://twitter.com/fly_okc/status/631105556946620417

Allegiant air to start 2 flights daily to Las Vegas beginning Nov 5

That's great news

[damonsmuz]

I believe that's twice weekly flights, not daily.

[Richard at Remax]

Yes you are correct

[ljbab728]

It may be great if they go on the days you want and you don't mind paying for all of the extra fees they charge. In many cases the Southwest Airlines every day nonstop flights may be less expensive after all of the extras are added in to Allegiant's price. In can cost up to $100.00 roundtrip for a checked or carry on bag. They tried this route a few years ago but it didn't stay around for very long. We'll see what happens this time.

[catch22]

The numbers are out

http://www.flyokc.com/statistics/Jul...nplanement.pdf

Alaska operated 30 RT's in July, out of 31 scheduled. (Had one cancelled RT in July)

This means they flew 2,280 seats each way. They boarded 2,150 to Seattle, and deplaned 2,123. This brings a load factor of 94% and 93% respectively.

It seems to be a hit, hopefully it is profitable.

[damonsmuz]

I noticed that Allegiant flies Tulsa to Tampa, Orlando, Los Angeles and Vegas but only flies OKC- Orlando and Vegas. I once heard that Allegiants aircraft were former AA MD-80s. Does Tulsa really have that much leisure traffic to support that number of routes or is Allegiant having work done on the planes in Tulsa?

[Josh Ryan]

I noticed that Allegiant flies Tulsa to Tampa, Orlando, Los Angeles and Vegas but only flies OKC- Orlando and Vegas. I once heard that Allegiants aircraft were former AA MD-80s. Does Tulsa really have that much leisure traffic to support that number of routes or is Allegiant having work done on the planes in Tulsa?

Don't know all the details but the flights are incentivized or supplemented as a part of their air service initiative.

[Bellaboo]

I believe that's twice weekly flights, not daily.

News reports said Thursday and Sunday service.

[Josh Ryan]

Full news release on Allegiant announcement can be found here: Allegiant OKC-LAS

[gopokes88]

News reports said Thursday and Sunday service.

That is way too long in Vegas

[catch22]

Allegiant's model was based off of serving smaller markets with leisure destinations. Tulsa and Wichita both have better service on Allegiant than OKC. Allegiant doesn't serve many larger markets.

[Just the facts]

I flew Allegiant from OKC to Sanford (Orlando) last month. It wasn't bad. The seats could have been more comfortable but it was a direct flight of less than 2 hours. I could stand on my head for two hours if the price was right - and it was ($220 round trip). The cheapest I have flown from OKC to Jax on other airlines is about $450. The big down side was having to get back to Sanford for a 8AM departure. Yes Allegiant charges for everything and they are stickler on their luggage weight (I had to take a pair of jeans out of my suitcase and take it back to the car), but if one can survive 2 hours without a cup of soda there is no need to incur the extra charges.

[LakeEffect]

Omaha is getting a 2nd daily non-stop to DCA - first Delta, now Southwest.

Southwest Airlines adds daily nonstop flight from Omaha to D.C. - Omaha.com: Money

With our large Federal (military) presence in Oklahoma, I'm surprised we don't have a daily non-stop (unless I recalling incorrectly).

[adaniel]

No OKC-DCA, but OKC-IAD on United and OKC-BWI on Southwest.

[Josh Ryan]

Just to add to adaniel's comment, would love to have Reagan (DCA). In fact, Reagan and Laguardia (LGA) are consistently at the top of the list when we approach airlines about adding nonstops.

[NWOKCGuy]

How about adding Austin or San Antonio?

[Josh Ryan]

San Antonio is in the top 5.

[damonsmuz]

As a guy who grew up in Northern Va and used DCA as my home airport... I'm OK not having service to DCA right now since we have service to BWI and IAD. I'd rather have service to PHL over DCA on AA if we had to choose one of the hubs.

[damonsmuz]

Saw this flight divert from Chicago enroute to Mexico. Anyone know what's up?