Quail Springs Mall area/Memorial Corridor OVERDEVELOPMENT

[CuatrodeMayo]

The problem isn't the development...the problem is in the addiction to everyone owning their own vehicle and a city who lacks a great transit system. Families of 5 shouldn't need 5 cars.

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[okie405]

There is tons of development. I only hope that it's upscale development that will help boost property values AND property sales over the long run. House sales are still rather slow, and having tons of, say, discount stores, isn't going to increase property value.

[bchris02]

There is tons of development. I only hope that it's upscale development that will help boost property values AND property sales over the long run. House sales are still rather slow, and having tons of, say, discount stores, isn't going to increase property value.

The new Chisholm Creek development at Memorial and Western is supposed to bring in several new-to-market retailers and restaurants and the city's second Whole Foods location. It is also, if built as planned, supposed to include a residential component and a live music venue. I would say this will definitely raise property values, not lower them. OKC could soon finally have a "trendy" suburban alternative to downtown.

[okie405]

The new Chisholm Creek development at Memorial and Western is supposed to bring in several new-to-market retailers and restaurants and the city's second Whole Foods location. It is also, if built as planned, supposed to include a residential component and a live music venue. I would say this will definitely raise property values, not lower them. OKC could soon finally have a "trendy" suburban alternative to downtown.

Upscale stores and restaurants are good. A Whole Foods around here? Wow. A live music venue making it more of a destination could be cool.

Residential component... more apartments? Ugh. There's so many apartments around here as it is. At least some of them are "more expensive" for apartments, but it still means more traffic and less class. Rental apartments aren't good for homeowners nearby.

[ljbab728]

Upscale stores and restaurants are good. A Whole Foods around here? Wow. A live music venue making it more of a destination could be cool.

Residential component... more apartments? Ugh. There's so many apartments around here as it is. At least some of them are "more expensive" for apartments, but it still means more traffic and less class. Rental apartments aren't good for homeowners nearby.

I'm beginning to think that you don't like apartments.

[hfry]

One thing that kind of helps with the Chisholm creek apartments is in their PUD they added they would do zero garden style apartments which I thought was odd but fantastic. It prevents them from doing what they did at the area by the mall(Quail) but it also encourages whatever apartments they do to be more than just an apartment building, ie offices, retail, mixed in. Which I would think be better for homeowners as it increases amenities and population without having the lowest of low rents.

[MagzOK]

Long dedicated right-turn-only lanes at every intersection would ease a lot of congestion. Texas turnarounds at Western, Penn, May, and Hefner Pkwy would ease a lot of congestion. OTA needs to move each of the Penn Exit ramps back a thousand or so feet to allow better merging onto the service roads. Dang, I should have been a planning engineer.

[Urbanized]

No, you would make a better TRAFFIC engineer. Planners account for multiple modes of transportation and good land use.

[bchris02]

No, you would make a better TRAFFIC engineer. Planners account for multiple modes of transportation and good land use.

Even from an auto-centric, suburban perspective the Memorial corridor needs a ton of work. Not only would more turnarounds be helpful, but much of it needs repaved because the potholes are excessive. It's one of those corridors that I don't understand why the city isn't doing something about yet they can come up with the funds to widen NW 192nd.

[MagzOK]

No, you would make a better TRAFFIC engineer. Planners account for multiple modes of transportation and good land use.

Not quite -- a traffic engineer deals with the functional part of transportation system, except the infrastructures provided. A planning engineer focuses on the planning, design, and construction of highways, roads, and bridges. I want to plan and design better roadways. That's my point.

[Snowman]

Even from an auto-centric, suburban perspective the Memorial corridor needs a ton of work. Not only would more turnarounds be helpful, but much of it needs repaved because the potholes are excessive. It's one of those corridors that I don't understand why the city isn't doing something about yet they can come up with the funds to widen NW 192nd.

The most congested areas of Memorial road are not even close to the top of the list of roads that need repaved first, they are not even the areas of Memorial road that need repaved the most.

[bombermwc]

The most congested areas of Memorial road are not even close to the top of the list of roads that need repaved first, they are not even the areas of Memorial road that need repaved the most.

Amen to that. The 240 frontage is waaaaay worse than Memorial when it comes to needing to be repaved. The U turn lanes do help keep traffic from backing up some, but 240 has some of those right hand turn lanes, and they aren't greatly used. Traffic still backs up in the 2 through lanes at intersections that have both features on them. Much like Memorial, the right turn lane doesn't really help that much in that you only avoided about 30 seconds-1 minute of waiting time and didn't help that many cars flow. The U helps prevent 2 lights-worth of traffic, but is much more expensive to install given the bridge work that has to be done to make it work.

I feel like people that drive on Memorial need a whambulance more than anything.

[OkiePoke]

This is what they need to do to Memorial: Reverse the on-ramp and off-ramps.

[jn1780]

This is what they need to do to Memorial: Reverse the on-ramp and off-ramps.

They would never reverse the ramps. They may be persuaded to move the off-ramps away from the intersection though which would help a lot.

[OkiePoke]

They would never reverse the ramps. They may be persuaded to move the off-ramps away from the intersection though which would help a lot.

I wouldn't think they would... but I can wish ha.