Lumberyard

[Plutonic Panda]

That's been my opinion since I took a trip to DC last year. You don't have to have giant towers to have a great street interaction, and sometimes you don't even get that.

No way!!!! Are you for real? Only 1000 other people on here say that once a month, but by golly I'm glad to know you have confirmed it!

[BrettM2]

No way!!!! Are you for real? Only 1000 other people on here say that once a month, but by golly I'm glad to know you have confirmed it!

Is there a reason you've been more of an ass lately?

[hoya]

Is there a reason you've been more of an ass lately?

Lack of cougars.

[Plutonic Panda]

Is there a reason you've been more of an ass lately?

Sorry about that. I was just speaking what was on my mind. I'll step back.

[ljbab728]

Sorry about that. I was just speaking what was on my mind. I'll step back.

Sleep, plupan, sleep.

[TU 'cane]

They've just got to prove the market first. Right now nobody really knows how well they'll sell. If they build one tower and it sells out in a certain amount of time (I don't know if a year or two is considered fast for something like that) then they'll build a few more. If those sell out quickly, then we'll get a flood of them.

Ah, this is where the Clayco development comes into major play. If it gets going and sells units, that's our first positive sign and a green flag for other developers.

[David]

No way!!!! Are you for real? Only 1000 other people on here say that once a month, but by golly I'm glad to know you have confirmed it!

No matter how hard you try, I'm not going back on my pledge not to block you.

[AP]

Sorry about that. I was just speaking what was on my mind. I'll step back.

I really respect that you have a sense of when you have been disrespectful and always apologize. Some of us other posters might learn a lesson from the young guy on the forum.

[edcrunk]

I wonder if we could get twenty pages out of singing the praises of medium-scale urban infill... first we need a new thread called Mystery Medium-Scale Infill!

I posted what I did in an attempt to get a rise out of Platonic Panda.

[Plutonic Panda]

I really respect that you have a sense of when you have been disrespectful and always apologize. Some of us other posters might learn a lesson from the young guy on the forum.

I was being sarcastic Andrew.

[AP]

I was being sarcastic Andrew.

Ok. I guess I take my compliment back then...

[Plutonic Panda]

Ok. I guess I take my compliment back then...

thats cute Andrew.

[AP]

I'm really confused right now.

[Plutonic Panda]

I'm really confused right now.

i appreciate the original intention.

[Plutonic Panda]

I posted what I did in an attempt to get a rise out of Platonic Panda.

Not sure why. I actually agreed with you.

[OKCisOK4me]

Pete, when this project is official or when any project is deemed official can we start new threads maybe with the titles in all caps followed by a height (kinda like on skyscraperpage.com) so we can enjoy the thread? I always feel like there's nothing of value to read in fantasy threads like this even though there may actually be valuable information buried.

[bchris02]

Steve's latest update today states that this deal is dead. I always thought it was "too good to be true" for the location near the Producer's Co-Op especially. The land is apparently under contract to be purchased by Fred Mazaheri.

[Motley]

iI agree. I wonder what the best use of this space is with the Co-Op remaining. If the Co-Op is redeveloped, this site would be incredibly prime. I wouldn't be surprised if Mazaheri sits on this for some time.

[Spartan]

Kind of hard to justify the asking price of the Co-Op and Lumeryard if you just plan to sit on it. Unless they can somehow pave it over for parking "temporarily," I don't see how you can buy it without some kind of near-term cash flow. I know they wouldn't have gotten their full ask, but still about dat asking price..

[bchris02]

iI agree. I wonder what the best use of this space is with the Co-Op remaining. If the Co-Op is redeveloped, this site would be incredibly prime. I wouldn't be surprised if Mazaheri sits on this for some time.

I agree.

I understand and respect the Co-Op and it's place in OKC history, but right now its a blight on downtown and an impediment to redevelopment. Will be interesting to see if there is more pressure on the property after the boulevard opens.

[Spartan]

The boulevard will be a major impediment to development, rather than the catalyst it should have been.

We will be paying out TIF dollars long after downtown is deemed economically "self-sufficient" just to overcome the access and frontage issues that this public works project will inflict on its surroundings. Considering that, we would probably save money by just tearing it down and fixing it ASAP. It seems as though the waste of its initial construction is unstoppable..

[Just the facts]

The boulevard will be a major impediment to development, rather than the catalyst it should have been.

We will be paying out TIF dollars long after downtown is deemed economically "self-sufficient" just to overcome the access and frontage issues that this public works project will inflict on its surroundings. Considering that, we would probably save money by just tearing it down and fixing it ASAP. It seems as though the waste of its initial construction is unstoppable..

Exactly - the lead vehicle in the ribbon cutting ceremony should be a D10 Cat with a ripper attachment.

[betts]

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The boulevard will be a major impediment to development, rather than the catalyst it should have been.

We will be paying out TIF dollars long after downtown is deemed economically "self-sufficient" just to overcome the access and frontage issues that this public works project will inflict on its surroundings. Considering that, we would probably save money by just tearing it down and fixing it ASAP. It seems as though the waste of its initial construction is unstoppable..

Sadly, the only people who might have done something just don't get it.....yet.

[Just the facts]

U

Sadly, the only people who might have done something just don't get it.....yet.

It will probably just be easier to find people who 'get it' and put them in position to do something about it. Some people will just need to get up to speed on their own time.

[Anonymous.]

I noticed with changes to the website, they now have this called "The Hill @ Bricktown". Probably a mistake, but seems odd.

The Hill at Bricktown | Humphreys & Partners Architects, L.P.