SoSA District

[CurtisJ]

Another cost that is being overlooked here is the death of countless mature trees (especially in the case of Mesta Park and Heritage Hills). No matter how careful the crews are when burying the lines, its likely that a few dozen mature trees would die in the process.

[Plutonic Panda]

Another cost that is being overlooked here is the death of countless mature trees (especially in the case of Mesta Park and Heritage Hills). No matter how careful the crews are when burying the lines, its likely that a few dozen mature trees would die in the process.

I am a huge supporter of saving trees. There is a transplant option where you can remove the trees and replant them, but that still comes with a risk.

Look(I'm not directing this at you), if you want the city to look good, you're going to have to spend money. Nothing worth doing is cheap. There are a few areas like the Farmers Market district I think should have them as memories, but for the most part, I think every one of them should be buried except for the really large ones.

Yes, they do cost a little more up front, but they are protected from the elements, drivers, and other things. They make areas look much better when they are buried(I wouldn't be surprised if they cause property values to increase a little bit). Also, they will never have to move them for road relocation projects if they place them right and away from the road.

[Spartan]

I am a huge supporter of saving trees. There is a transplant option where you can remove the trees and replant them, but that still comes with a risk.

Look(I'm not directing this at you), if you want the city to look good, you're going to have to spend money. Nothing worth doing is cheap. There are a few areas like the Farmers Market district I think should have them as memories, but for the most part, I think every one of them should be buried except for the really large ones.

Yes, they do cost a little more up front, but they are protected from the elements, drivers, and other things. They make areas look much better when they are buried(I wouldn't be surprised if they cause property values to increase a little bit). Also, they will never have to move them for road relocation projects if they place them right and away from the road.

Yes, things have a cost, you get what you pay for, and we should be doing things to the highest standard. Everyone is all for that.

The problem with buried utilities is it's just a bad idea all-around (especially the further-out that one is capable of thinking) just because some people can't get over visual clutter.

[Plutonic Panda]

Yes, things have a cost, you get what you pay for, and we should be doing things to the highest standard. Everyone is all for that.

The problem with buried utilities is it's just a bad idea all-around (especially the further-out that one is capable of thinking) just because some people can't get over visual clutter.

So now people are going to start arguing we need the visual clutter. Wow. Cities in Asia have tons of that.

[Spartan]

Cities in Asia have lots of great urbanism. I'm not sure exactly what you're getting at.

[Motley]

The streetcars lines will provide a lot of overhead clutter.

Not sure I understand the problem with buried utilities except for a few that prefer overhead clutter to utility boxes in yards.

[Spartan]

The streetcars lines will provide a lot of overhead clutter.

Not sure I understand the problem with buried utilities except for a few that prefer overhead clutter to utility boxes in yards.

Well, preferring one visual or another is irrelevant to most people. It's expensive, doesn't accomplish a lot, and can limit your options in the future. You want those roads routinely repaved so we can drive safely, right?

[Plutonic Panda]

Cities in Asia have lots of great urbanism. I'm not sure exactly what you're getting at.

I'm advocating for less clutter and more openness. Be able to look around the city and not see wires everywhere; it's kind of nice. That's why I'm against the streetcar wires as well.

[Spartan]

I'm advocating for less clutter and more openness. Be able to look around the city and not see wires everywhere; it's kind of nice. That's why I'm against the streetcar wires as well.

That's absurd. How can you be for openness while wanting to waste resources burying everything?

[Plutonic Panda]

The streetcars lines will provide a lot of overhead clutter.

Not sure I understand the problem with buried utilities except for a few that prefer overhead clutter to utility boxes in yards.

You can also bury utility boxes, although I'd prefer having a few utility boxes every mile or so vs. constant overhanging lines. In the neighborhoods that have them buried, there are utility boxes in people's yards, but they are few and far between. They can also be hidden, but usually aren't.

[Motley]

I see a lot of power outages announced in OKC and my parents did without power for a week due to ice storms a few years back. I thought the big advantage of underground utilities is reliability, especially in an area prone to wind and ice storms. I don't enjoy the clutter, but I think it "disappears" over time. It doesn't look modern and clean, and that may be the issue with many people.

[Plutonic Panda]

I see a lot of power outages announced in OKC and my parents did without power for a week due to ice storms a few years back. I thought the big advantage of underground utilities is reliability, especially in an area prone to wind and ice storms. I don't enjoy the clutter, but I think it "disappears" over time. It doesn't look modern and clean, and that may be the issue with many people.

Yeah. I know what you mean. Most of the time when I'm driving, I don't pay attention but I do often look up and think of how much better the area would appeal if they weren't there because when you look at something, you might not over think every little detail, but you subconsciously think on it and little things can add up. That's how I see it at least.

[dwellsokc]

Two new ones up for approval next week: https://www.facebook.com/pages/SoSA/173960237930

[Spartan]

Wow, this is impressive. A sequel to Lisbon Lofts?

[Urban Pioneer]

I am really shocked to see a Mediterranean house! I like Mediterranean for a home... just surprised to see it in SOSA with the trend so bent towards modern design. Wonder if they will use all of Rick Dowell's buildings to claim a precedent.

[Pete]

I've updated the summary at the top of the page to reflect the newest construction.

Close to 40 projects now in this small area and more are coming.

[Pete]

Wow, this is impressive. A sequel to Lisbon Lofts?

Don't know where that image came from.

The prosal is just for the three units on the left; one in front, two in back.

[Plutonic Panda]

This will be pretty



I've been updating the City Data OKC forum and plan to do so the same with Skyscraper Page.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/oklah...velopment.html

[bchris02]

Good to hear. City-Data is extremely biased towards Tulsa so its good to see some of the good things happening in OKC making an appearance over there.

[Pete]

Here is another one at 916 NW 8th; it's #36 on the map above and well under construction:

[skanaly]

All of this development is incredible. Really do wish prettier trees were planted and sidewalks kept in good shape.

[kdubinmo]

I would like to include my house that I had built in 2005 at 619 NW 7th St on this list. please email me at kdubinmo@gmail.com.
Thanks Ken

[Pete]

I would like to include my house that I had built in 2005 at 619 NW 7th St on this list. please email me at kdubinmo@gmail.com.
Thanks Ken

I'll add it. Thanks for the suggestion.

[Pete]

For those who haven't done it yet, I highly encourage you to park your car and just walk up and down the streets of SoSA. It's like a parade of modern architecture and there are tons of interesting buildings under construction and a bunch more set to start.

This is Steve Mason's house. The second one is part of the pool that juts out to provide skyline views. There will be glass railings all around:

[traxx]

Seeing all this modern architecture in the SoSa district always makes me think of the Stahl house. I'd love to build a copy of that here and live in it. But where to build such a house in OKC to get a similar type of view to what the original Stahl house has?