Crossroads Mall

[Plutonic Panda]

BTW, they also have a website here: Home

I'm trying to find some rendering that were said to have been unveiled here

Plans unveiled yesterday included architectural rendering of new entrances, a performing arts center, the retail business incubator, and other proposed uses. The hope is that Plaza Mayor will join the list of successful implementations throughout the country, and it is well on its way with 15 new contracts signed since the end of March, and increasing interest from additional national tenants.

- New Direction for Crossroads Mall

but is also said it hadn't been updated since 'Last modified onFriday, 28 June 2013 20:46' and I don't remember seeing any posted on here.

There also this interesting graphic from The Legaspi Company



Also said is this

In 2000 the Hispanic Population within a 20 mile radius was 67,204. The 2013 estimate is 150,790.

which is pretty cool to note.

I just wonder if 20 million is good for a mall this size.

Also, their Facebook page which is good to they are updating it.

https://www.facebook.com/PlazaMayorOK

[Dubya61]

As I drove past on I-240, I saw a lot of red paint on CRM's south "anchor." Anybody know: Is that recent or I just haven't been paying attention?

[bombermwc]

I noticed they had been painting the old Dillards. It's obviously not done since you can see through the first coat from miles away, but it matches that concept design up above. I dont really know what that gets them, other than having to paint every 10 years, but it does make it stand out.

[SuperK]

There have been a lot of new stores open for business in the last couple of months including an AMAZING Mexican Restaurant on the upper level called Chile Verde Mexican Grill along with a really good bakery downstairs called House Cake (you have to try their chocolate tres leche cake).

American shopping malls struggle to survive - Videos - CBS News


This Is How You Resurrect America?s Dying Malls - TIME


The first video was on CBS Sunday morning on March 23 and will re-air on June 29th. The second link is to a video that was done in conjunction with a Time Magazine article that talks more about the Mercado which is the concept going in the former Dillards space. Happy watching!

[Pete]

$450,000 building permit to remodel 1st floor of former Dillards into "open air mercado". Says no plans yet for 2nd and 3rd levels.

First real big investment since the property changed hands.

[Zuplar]

I kind of hope they spend some money marketing this place once it's done. Most everyone I have talked too thinks its a big flea market now and are staying far away. It's got a real big image problem.

[Plutonic Panda]

Work begins on marketplace for small businesses at Plaza Mayor in southeast Oklahoma City | News OK

[bombermwc]

Fail, it's exactly what the place does NOT need. You want to make it into a real farmer's market type place, great. But it certainly feels more like a flea market. I understand what they are trying to do here, but the way they are doing it, it just isn't going to end up that way. What they're TRYING to do is make a market square indoors. There really isn't an equivalent in OKC, but i think it's going to end up feeling like a flea market more than a square. A real market has a mix of food vendors (carnitas, panderias, taquerias, peppers, etc) as well as people that MAKE things, not just resell old crap.

[ljbab728]

A real market has a mix of food vendors (carnitas, panderias, taquerias, peppers, etc) as well as people that MAKE things, not just resell old crap.

Do you have information about what or how many businesses will be there that fit that description. I don't see anything about that in the article?

[bombermwc]

What im basing that off of is the description they gave for the market section. Hey, I could be totally off, but it just doesn't sound like they're pushing more than a flea market.

[warreng88]

From the Journal Record:

Reason for Christmas cheer: Plaza Mayor grows into regional shopping destination

By: Molly M. Fleming The Journal Record December 15, 2014

OKLAHOMA CITY – In its second Christmas season since announcing renovation plans, Plaza Mayor at the Crossroads mall has grown into a regional shopping destination, with some help from Santa Claus.

The mall’s North Pole Adventure attraction was built by local resident John Conner and has more than just a stop on Santa’s lap. It features the North Pole Welcome Center, Santa’s Post Office, Elf University, Mrs. Claus’s Kitchen, Santa’s Workshop, an Elf Clubhouse and Bedroom, Reindeer Barn with live reindeer, and Santa’s House. Tickets to tour the wonderland start at $10 for the first child.

The mall also hosted a serenade event celebrating Our Lady of Guadalupe, a traditional Mexican holiday, on Dec. 9.

Plaza Mayor Marketing Director Robert Ruiz said the area – which is set up outside the mall – has attracted more than 10,000 children, which was Conner’s total goal for the season.

“(North Pole Adventure organizers) are projecting to double those numbers,” Ruiz said.

The young people certainly didn’t come alone. They brought their families, who spent money inside the mall, especially on Black Friday. Ruiz said the mall’s Bath and Body Works sales to date were the nationwide highest percentage above planned sales. Victoria’s Secret also surpassed its sales goal.

“We’re really excited with the way everyone is performing, and we expect it to get better,” he said.

Ruiz said he thinks growth will likely continue as Christmas customers return next year, and as people come to take care of their documentation at the Mexican consulate’s office. Ruiz said the mall staff is already seeing customers from at least three hours away. There are more Christmas events planned, including a celebration on Three Kings Day, Jan. 6.

To keep those customers returning, Ruiz and his team are working on recruiting new stores. When renovation was first announced, the mall was 17-percent occupied. That figure now stands at 42 percent. Starting in February, the former Dillard’s location will reopen as the El Parian. The first phase will feature 44 small shops that could grow into full-size businesses.

The mall’s continued growth can only benefit the community, said Elaine Lyons, South Oklahoma City Chamber of Commerce CEO and president.

“I think the mall is becoming a vital part of Oklahoma City,” she said. “It certainly meets a needs that we didn’t know needed to be met.”

She said she’s anticipating the mall to continue to create a buzz in the area.

“They won’t have the same stores that we currently have in our market, and I think that’s exciting,” she said.

[jn1780]

They are certainly trying their hardest to breath life into this mall with these special events and activities.

[traxx]

North Pole Adventure attraction was built by local resident John Conner

Shouldn't he be more worried about Skynet? IIRC, that's right around the corner.

[jccouger]

They are certainly trying their hardest to breath life into this mall with these special events and activities.

If you haven't been in a while I suggest you check it out. It is a lot more lively than it once was. Obviously not on the level of Penn Square or Quail, but there has been an obvious increase in customer activity.

[Plutonic Panda]

Plaza Mayor at the Crossroads starting to lease spaces for incubator project | News OK

[jn1780]

Hmm, what's the difference between a " business incubator" and a flea market again? I guess the fact that its attached to a mall makes it special. Either way, its better than an empty Dillards shell.

[Zuplar]

Yeah from the video that looked like a flea market. At first I thought it wasn't finished, but the article says ribbon cutting April 9th, so unless that video was done awhile ago it's not very fancy.

[jn1780]

Yeah from the video that looked like a flea market. At first I thought it wasn't finished, but the article says ribbon cutting April 9th, so unless that video was done awhile ago it's not very fancy.

That's the finished product. its a big open space with partitions and chain gates.

[Zuplar]

That's the finished product. its a big open space with partitions and chain gates.

Right...looks bad IMO.

[borchard]

Yep. Just looks like a nicer Old Paris

[jccouger]

Is that a bad thing? Old Paris is extremely successful & it serves a huge market. Believe it or not OKC has a pretty sizable lower class population, whether you try to ignore them or not. There are also people who like to shop thrifty even if they do have a higher expandable income. Everybody doesn't need/want to shop at Saks & Von Maur.

[borchard]

For me, it is a bad thing. maybe because I remember what Crossroads Mall used to be. I was talking with my wife and her family last night about our memories of CRM. It used to be a destination. When I was in college in Norman, my friends and I would carpool up to CRM for an afternoon. Later on, I worked there. When my wife was little they would plan to go to CRM all week, and then they would pick up her grandmother and spend the whole Saturday there. So yeah, it does bother me a little bit that it is turning into another Old Paris Flea Market. And "shop thrifty"? Have you actually BEEN to OPFM lately? The last time I went I realized it's a great place if you want;
Ear gauges
Throwing stars
Bongs

[metro]

Hmm, what's the difference between a " business incubator" and a flea market again? I guess the fact that its attached to a mall makes it special. Either way, its better than an empty Dillards shell.

There's a HUGE difference in a REAL business incubator and a flea market, however OKC says they want a business incubator, but never follows through with what it takes. The closest thing we have to business incubators are i2E, The Stadium, the now defunct Blueprint for Business and to a smaller extent co-working spaces like 404, The Barn and The Commonwealth.

[jccouger]

There's a HUGE difference in a REAL business incubator and a flea market, however OKC says they want a business incubator, but never follows through with what it takes. The closest thing we have to business incubators are i2E, The Stadium, the now defunct Blueprint for Business and to a smaller extent co-working spaces like 404, The Barn and The Commonwealth.

This development should be perfect then. They actually provide support from the operations side of things, and then if they start to become successful they can move in to a empty front permanently in crossroads mall. Physical looks can be deceiving. Sure, they are just crappy looking booths but the support they will receive should be a tremendous asset.

[metro]

This development should be perfect then. They actually provide support from the operations side of things, and then if they start to become successful they can move in to a empty front permanently in crossroads mall. Physical looks can be deceiving. Sure, they are just crappy looking booths but the support they will receive should be a tremendous asset.

Perfect for what? It's NOT a business incubator in the traditional, industry standard sense. OKC needs a REAL incubator, better than the ones I listed above, although they are notches above what this is probably going to bring in.