UFO's and other mysteries

[trousers]

Do I believe that there is other life somewhere in this massive universe? Yes.
Do I think that they helped build the pyramids? No.
My problem is when people think if you believe A then you should believe B.

[Bill Robertson]

I believe the universe is simply too large for us to be the only life out there.
I also believe that if there are life forms out there advanced enough to travel light-years to visit other planets they would look at us as so inconsequential that they might fly by but not pay much attention to us. Why would they?

Ghosts are another thing. I've experienced a couple of things that I have no other explanation for. Whether I call them ghosts, lingering life energy or whatever there is something there.

[Prunepicker]

Do I believe that there is other life somewhere in this massive universe? Yes.

As do I.

Do I think that they helped build the pyramids? No.

Nor do I.

My problem is when people think if you believe A then you should believe B.

Personally, I don't know of anyone who believes that. That means that I've
never met anyone who believes that. Never, ever. But that's my experience.

Do you know anyone who does? Or is it an assumption? Do you have evidence?
Maybe a site for kooks who believe that? Is this a personal experience? If it
is then it's just as valid as any one's experience.

[Jim Kyle]

I've personally seen and reported UFOs, back in 1953 while on a Korean hill with Love Company of the Wolfhounds, as a forward observer for Battery C, 8th FA Battalion, 25th Infantry Division. My position was due south of the Panmunjom truce tent, about 15 miles to my north, and one night while keeping watch I noticed some strange red lights darting back and forth above the tent's location. Unable to identify them, I reported them to my Fire Direction Center and from there the report went up the line through channels.

They were objects, they appeared to be flying, and they were unidentified. It must have been a dead day for news, because it hit the wires as 'UFOs over truce talks" and caused a brief stir.

However by dawn we HAD managed to identify them. A quad-50 machine gun had been firing at a Chinese patrol well removed from the truce corridor itself, with tracer bullets as always, and what I saw had been ricochets of the tracers. They changed from "UFO" status to "IFO" status, and of course that never made the news...

[Prunepicker]

I've personally seen and reported UFOs, back in 1953 while on a Korean hill with
Love Company of the Wolfhounds, as a forward observer for Battery C, 8th FA
Battalion, 25th Infantry Division. My position was due south of the Panmunjom truce
tent, about 15 miles to my north, and one night while keeping watch I noticed some
strange red lights darting back and forth above the tent's location. Unable to identify
them, I reported them to my Fire Direction Center and from there the report went up
the line through channels.

They were objects, they appeared to be flying, and they were unidentified. It must
have been a dead day for news, because it hit the wires as 'UFOs over truce talks"
and caused a brief stir.

However by dawn we HAD managed to identify them. A quad-50 machine gun had
been firing at a Chinese patrol well removed from the truce corridor itself, with tracer
bullets as always, and what I saw had been ricochets of the tracers. They changed
from "UFO" status to "IFO" status, and of course that never made the news...

Careful JK, someone is going to call you a kook.

I believe you. And knowing you makes it very easy to do.

Thanks for your input.

[Jim Kyle]

Careful JK, someone is going to call you a kook.

That's okay. I've been officially certified as being 90% sane, by an agency of the federal government, and have held that status for a bit more than 60 years now. Not too many folks can truthfully make that claim, I suspect...

[Prunepicker]

Here's a fun article.

Will first contact with aliens spell the end of civilization? Experts discuss
dangers of sending messages to ET

[Prunepicker]

I don't remember this. Does anyone remember it?

Britain's Roswell: the truth behind the Rendlesham Forest UFO incident - Telegraph

[RadicalModerate]

I don't remember this. Does anyone remember it?

Britain's Roswell: the truth behind the Rendlesham Forest UFO incident - Telegraph

I remember it like it was yesterday. Or, like, almost yesterday (you posted the reminder at 12:03 am). I think that a lot of these UFO sightings are of inter-dimensional time-travelers. From ancient civilizations that existed prior to The Mayans. Perhaps even the Sumerians. Why . . . There is a good chance that their home base might even have been Atlantis. Speaking of time-travel, tomorrow we are planning a trip to Ingrid's Kitchen: Where excellent food and live music are not a thing of the past. Perhaps we will meet in passing time . . . just don't play any tunes by Donovan, OK?

[RadicalModerate]

Here's a fun article.

Will first contact with aliens spell the end of civilization? Experts discuss
dangers of sending messages to ET

I think there have already been Close Encounters of The Fourth Kind: How else can The Origin of The Proto-Borg CellPhoners be explained? Rhetorical Question: The answer is given in the interrogatory. Not to mention that line from the article regarding the English Airspace Invaders' fondness for state of the art buried cable.

Here's a question that I've always had regarding ExtraTerrestrial Flying Machines: Just who is it that those flashing lights are for? (Or, alternatively, "for whom are them flashing lights intended?") That question would even apply to Captain Kirk's ride, The Enterprise. Especially if it was travelling at Warp Speed. I mean . . . If one is travelling at several times the speed of light, then what's the point of the blinking lights?

[Prunepicker]

... If one is traveling at several times the speed of light, then what's the point of the blinking
lights?

For those following behind so can they can see which way to turn.

[Prunepicker]

The binary code of 23 and 73 is quite interesting. I'm very interested in this.

Radio telescope - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Jim Kyle]

The binary code of 23 and 73 is quite interesting. I'm very interested in this.

Radio telescope - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Interesting in what way? Binary for 23 is 00010111 and that for 73 is 01001001 == and I see nothing much in common here. Are you referring to the mysterious "WOW!" signal, which seems quite likely to have been of extraterritorial origin but still could have been a natural event of some sort?

[drumsncode]

Everyone interested in this thread should be watching "Unsealed: Alien Files" every Saturday night on channel 52. I believe they rerun it on Sunday evening, too. There are two shows back to back each time. Week to week there is plenty of repetition, but the show is extremely interesting. It's also overly dramatic, but ignore that and watch with an open mind.

Also, get hold of a copy of Zecharia Sitchin's "Genesis Revisited". That will rock your world. It's those Sumerian clay tablets that really woke me up.

[Prunepicker]

Interesting in what way? Binary for 23 is 00010111 and that for 73 is 01001001 ==
and I see nothing much in common here. Are you referring to the mysterious "WOW!"
signal, which seems quite likely to have been of extraterritorial origin but still could
have been a natural event of some sort?

I'm thinking of extraterritorial, or more commonly extraterrestrial. At least that's what
this thread is about. Here's a link about the Arecibo message. Whether or not it's
accurate is debatable. I simply like this stuff.

Arecibo message - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Jim Kyle]

Okay; I think the question I was answering led me astray. They picked 23 and 73 because both of them are prime numbers; so far as I can see that's their only significance. I think they assumed that any other intelligence would have (1) developed mathematics as a tool for dealing with the physical universe and (2) consequently be aware of the unusual qualities of prime numbers. They could have used any other pair of primes, but I suspect their choice depended on how many bits they needed for each part of the message.

The message itself is so full of human-oriented assumptions that it's extremely unlikely to even be recognized as a message, by non-human intelligence. This whole thing was primarily a public relations gesture to publicize the Arecibo facility -- which I understood to have been completely shut down a few years later, although I've not confirmed that via Google.

Much more interesting, to me, is the "WOW!" message detected just once a few years earlier. It met all the expected earmarks of a true extraterrestrial communications event, but happened only once and despite intensive searching, has never been repeated. The wikipedia entry for it has links to extremely detailed explanation of the message, the reasons for ruling out most suggested reasons for its terrestrial origin, and description of the subsequent search attempts.

For 10 years back in the late Fifties and early Sixties, I was a very active ham radio operator, working in the VHF/UHF range by choice, and got rather deep into a study of radio astronomy. It's fascinating in and of itself. As an aside, hams used the Arecibo dish to bounce a signal off of our moon, after the military had proved that radar could measure its distance. The amazing thing about the ham effort is that we were allowed a maximum transmitter power of 1000 watts. Using the big dish in Peurto Rico, though, concentrated that signal into a beam narrow enough and consequently powerful enough to make it to the moon and back in the Sixties!

If you've not yet looked at the data about the WOW! signal, just Google for it. I found the details that way, and they were on line as recently as last week.