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  1. #676

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Oh, nevermind. Now they're just going to vote to demolish them one-by-one. Everything approved to be demolished.

    OKC's amazing unhistory continues.

  2. #677

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Hm...

    We'll see how this plays out in the coming moments. For a second I was hopeful, but...

  3. #678

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    I'm just ill.

  4. #679

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Ben Felder ‏@benfelder_okg 32s32 seconds ago
    Once again, DDRC voted to approve demolish city-wide block, including Union Bus Station, to make way for #499Sheridan development. #OKC

  5. #680

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Looks like there was only one vote against demolishing the bus station, no opposition at all to the others.

  6. #681

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Good day for the progress of OKC

  7. #682

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Steve's OKC Central ‏@stevelackmeyer 45s45 seconds ago
    Demo approval includes requirement that the Lunch Box sign, Union Bus Station sign be incorporated into new development.

  8. #683

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    Good day for the progress of OKC
    Stop trolling.

  9. #684

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    I'm sure this has been stated multiple times, but I've forgotten in all this hysteria. But, once approved, will they seek to begin development immediately? We're talking within the next 30-90 days correct?

  10. Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Stuff like this makes me glad I left.

  11. Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    Good day for the progress of OKC
    Admit to everyone you have a massive woody right now.

  12. #687

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    Good day for the progress of OKC
    If "progress" includes a city having no history or identity, then yes. New tourism slogan, "OKC: A Generic City for Cars."

  13. #688

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Quote Originally Posted by TU 'cane View Post
    I'm sure this has been stated multiple times, but I've forgotten in all this hysteria. But, once approved, will they seek to begin development immediately? We're talking within the next 30-90 days correct?
    Yes, my understanding is that they want to demo everything and start construction ASAP.

  14. #689

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Steve's OKC Central ‏@stevelackmeyer 2m2 minutes ago
    Plans for new 27-story tower, two new parking garages approved by committee with enhanced facade for Walker side of garage.

  15. #690

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    So frustrating... Old people making the decisions for a city the rest of us will inherit. Wish we had an under 35 voice on the DDRC or at least someone who truly understood the changing dynamics of the millennial generation's preferences for urban areas.

  16. #691

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Quote Originally Posted by PhiAlpha View Post
    So frustrating... Old people making the decisions for a city the rest of us will inherit. Wish we had an under 35 voice on the DDRC or at least someone who truly understood the changing dynamics of the millennial generation's preferences for urban areas.
    This occurred to me after Allison Barta Bailey (30) spoke against the demolitions.

    That younger people probably are more inclined towards preservation, and they are always held out as vital to a city's future. See the recent Gazette article about millenials and all the traction that received.

  17. Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Quote Originally Posted by UnFrSaKn View Post
    Admit to everyone you have a massive woody right now.
    Probably not a massive...but nonetheless

    OKC has some issues. Serious issues.

  18. #693

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    I by no means am a preservationist but to demo 9 buildings in one fell swoop is pretty disheartening

  19. Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan View Post
    Probably not a massive...but nonetheless

    OKC has some issues. Serious issues.

  20. Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Quote Originally Posted by David View Post
    That just kills me. Going by the tweets they spent the first portion of the meeting bemoaning the lack of transit that makes all this parking necessary, and one of the garages they want to build is going to be put up right next to the planned streetcar route on Hudson. The cognitive disconnect is nearly breathtaking.
    Breathtaking, extremely convenient, same thing...

  21. #696

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Quote Originally Posted by dankrutka View Post
    If "progress" includes a city having no history or identity, then yes. New tourism slogan, "OKC: A Generic City for Cars."
    Unfortunately I would say that ship sailed a long time ago for OKC. Having or not having these buildings really won't make that much of a difference in terms of whether or not the city has history or character. In reality these buildings, except for the Bus station, are not unique or memorable in any way. Stage Center was significantly more important than this block considering its architectural significance. This is more symbolic than anything. It's finishing the job that began in the 1960s with urban renewal.

  22. #697

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Quote Originally Posted by loveOKC View Post
    I by no means am a preservationist but to demo 9 buildings in one fell swoop is pretty disheartening
    Ah! You forgot to add for two parking garages and a single 27 story building with no attempt to incorporate any of the existing structures.
    That almost makes it hurt worse.

    I can only imagine years down the road seeing this 433 ft. tower mixed in with the Motor Hotel, or Hotel Black, perfectly balancing old with new. Past with future. Showing visitors and other cities that it is possible to make the two work. Things like that add character to a city.

    This continues the glass kingdom ruled by King Nichols. Sterile, generic...

    But, it's done. I imagine when this project is done, we'll all be impressed with it, but still questioning in the backs of our minds what could have been, or what should have been.

  23. #698

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Quote Originally Posted by PhiAlpha View Post
    So frustrating... Old people making the decisions for a city the rest of us will inherit. Wish we had an under 35 voice on the DDRC or at least someone who truly understood the changing dynamics of the millennial generation's preferences for urban areas.
    Sooooo right. If I ever owned anything as awesome as Hotel Black I'd be the happiest man alive. Its buildings like this that really add charm to a city, and could have so many different uses. Shame on you Devon.

  24. #699

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    This occurred to me after Allison Barta Bailey (30) spoke against the demolitions.

    That younger people probably are more inclined towards preservation, and they are always held out as vital to a city's future. See the recent Gazette article about millenials and all the traction that received.
    Every OKC millenial that I know, many of whom have been vital in OKC's renaissance, are really disheartened by this. As a millenial who always hoped to move back to OKC, I'm not really sure I'm interested anymore. It's not just that the buildings are coming down, but the corrupt process. I thought OKC was a city moving in a direction that I could believe in, but the city government is clearly more oligarchical than democratic. It's shameful to make dishonest arguments as were made by those who really make decisions in OKC. And as Pete has meticulously shown, this is not the only area where decisions are being made behind closed doors without concern for how it's done.

  25. #700

    Default Re: 499 Sheridan

    Quote Originally Posted by TU 'cane View Post
    I can only imagine years down the road seeing this 433 ft. tower mixed in with the Motor Hotel, or Hotel Black, perfectly balancing old with new. Past with future. Showing visitors and other cities that it is possible to make the two work. Things like that add character to a city. .
    It really would not have been very difficult to accomplish that. But Hines had their marching orders......

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