Here's a story for you.
This past September I attended my company anniversary party at the George Bush Center in Dallas. These things, at least at my old job, tend to request dressy/casual cocktail party-type attire. So I went with a nice plaid shirt, sport coat, nice, loose khakis, and some loafers. It was literally the same outfit I would wear at my old employer's party when I was in OKC.
Upon arriving at the center, I was immediately mortified when I noticed how wildly underdressed I was. Nearly everyone was in some sort of tailored black suit, expensive dress shoes, etc. Now truthfully, I doubt most people gave a second glance in how I was dressed. But I caught at least 3 or 4 of the ugliest "WTF sneers" from people towards me, all from other guys FWIW. It felt very judgemental and at first generated some panic. But then I was just like "F*** what these people think of me," proceeded to down about 3 jack and cokes in 15 minutes, and had a great time. I even had at least 2 people compliment me on how "comfortable" I looked, whatever that means but I'll take it as a compliment.
So yes, Dallas can be a very dressy and somewhat materialistic place, although there is nothing wrong with wanting to look good. And most big cities are; I was in NYC this June and it felt like half of Manhattan fell out of an American Apparel catalog. I definitely have to be a lot more aware of my clothing choices here than I ever did in OKC. Ironically, I ended up coming up to Norman for the OU/Tennessee game the next day after this anniversary party, and it took me a while to adjust how casual everyone was dressed. But it's not something to be ashamed of. I probably did not truly appreciate how laid back and casual OKC can be until I was in another enviornment.
OK, now back to your regualrly scheduled pissing contest :-)
By the way, it also depends where you are in Dallas. There are plenty of areas in Dallas that feel just like OKC, but obviously, if you get into some of trendier areas closer to downtown you'll notice a difference. But that goes for most cities, including OKC, but just maybe to a lesser degree.
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heard them talking about this on NPR
Yes, I'm 18 and just out of high school. You got me. You're a Snowman, so what do you know? You're just going to melt in the summer.
All kidding aside, I'm not defending myself on that. I've stated multiple times how I know what I know, my age, and how I get to deal with people that ask me where I'm from and where I lived, and if you missed that, then that seems like a personal problem.
People that haven't been to OKC have a view that it is not great, but I have business associates tell me how much they enjoyed OKC and was impressed with it after visiting.
Going to London once years ago, I told the customs person that I was coming from Dallas. Dallas, Texas. The customs guy said "Yes, I am aware of where Dallas is located. I've seen the show with the cowboys and oil wells." I don't think Dallas appeared too cosmopolitan to that Londoner.
Hmmmm, I just spoke to someone today from Tokyo who was in Dallas for four weeks and is now coming here for school. He ended up renting a car from me. Asked him what he though of Dallas and he said it was an amazing city. Had people all over the world from London, Tehran, Beijing, etc... tell me that.
Posters on this website can get so redundant--myself included I suppose--it gets to a point where it seems like either insanity or just the sake of never missing an opportunity to bash Dallas for something. Behold the future ones that will come and post something positive about Dallas and then say how I'm just being over defensive and whatever. I am sure this has to be the 20th time or so I've posted something like this on here responding to another poster who said the same thing pretty much.
Every city has its differences. There are people I know living in Dallas who hate it there. There are people I know living here in OKC who hate Dallas. I think Tulsa is one of the most depressing cities I've ever seen, yet I know people who moved there from L.A. who would never live anywhere else.
Less this be a pissing match about Dallas and whether or not it is the best city in the world, because I certainly don't think so. This is about me calling posters out who never miss the chance to bash the place. If I had to guess of a number count of the sheer number of posts about bashing a city, right off of memory, I would put it this way
Chicago: 0
NYC: 0
Atlanta: 1-3
Austin: 1-3
San Antonio: 1-5
Houston: 50+
Dallas: 50+
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For the life of me, I'm not going to dig up every post I've seen where Dallas is trash talked, I know several people on here have supported Dallas. My point is, I've seen Atlanta bashed a couple of times, Austin and San Antonio bashed a couple of times. but cities like Seattle, Portland, Chicago, NYC, etc... never seem to get bashed at all. Funny enough, videos I've seen of them have 6 lane or even wider roads through their suburbs and downtown yet people claim them to be a detriment to development pedestrian activity. Anytime Dallas is trashed talked, expect me to respond to that post.
This is completely ridiculous man.
I for one, do not bash Dallas or Houston. I like both, actually Houston a bit more than Dallas. My story was to point out that it is all about perspective. Almost every place has merits and negatives. I've had wonderful times in all the cites you list, and less than wonderful things happen too. I know people who assume all of TX is a wasteland. I also know Texans that would never consider CA or NY as a desirable place to live. As I get older, I find I am drawn more and more to where family is over any other attraction. Age has changed my perspectives from wanting the big city to wanting comforts of home.
I will say Portland, OR has one of the most stringent growth policies in the nation and only allows specific pockets of land in the city to be developed each year to control sprawl.
I'll bash Houston all I want. As someone from Dallas, that' s my God given right.
Oh, fashion is fair game for all cities. Dallas has it share of teens walking around with basketball jerseys & trunks wearing cowboy boots without socks. Emily Post would have choked upon seeing that sight.
'AS IS!'
It's my home & hometown. Ask me if I care about what other people say or think about OKC; just repeat the infamous line in Gone with the Wind; 'Frankly Miss Scarlett, I don't give a damn!!!'
I wouldn't trade OKC for the glitter & glamor of Dallas, Las Vegas & Atlanta all rolled up into one...
Man. Are we already done telling anecdotal stories about someone we once met who said something nice or mean about a city that we already have a strong personal opinion about? I like it best when that initial story is then followed up by some kind of generalization about how the rest of earth's people feel about said city. I always miss the good stuff.![]()
Someone post another article. It seems we've hit too many people in the feels zone...
Here you go.
Top 10 metro cities with the most unpredictable weather are? | KFOR.com
A recent study by FiveThirtyEight shows, out of the most populated cities in the country, Oklahoma City has the second most unpredictable weather.
Surprised this wasn't posted yet, as I've seen it all over Facebook. Typical list, except they also included the price of beer, cigarettes, and marijuana (lol) along with music venues, coffee shops, etc.
Vocativ: Best Cities For People Under 35 - Business Insider
OKC came in at #19, just behind D.C. and Boston. Not too shabby.
This article was posted on another message board; this doesn't sound anything like the Sam Presti that talks to the media. Is anyone familiar with the 'Land Run News?"
Thunder Management Celebrates Win Over Barons | Land Run News“We’re very excited by the win; it was a struggle we should have won a lot faster, but I’m just glad it’s done,” said Thunder GM Sam Presti, who acknowledged the importance of victories over any competition for the entertainment dollar...
...“It was a lot of work to get people to forget that there are other teams in town, and it’s not getting any easier. The Dodgers will come out strong this spring, and Energy could get that MLS franchise if we aren’t careful. We have a good gameplan to succeed, but we need everyone to execute,” Presti said.
This is very disturbing; why would Sam Presti say something like this and put it out in the media? That doesn't sound like the professional GM Sam Presti I've come to know...
This is not a real news source and those Presti quotes are fake.
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