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    Quote Originally Posted by cxl144 View Post
    It's interesting they bring up the growth of the Yukon school district. Over the past year, the Mustang school district grew at nearly 9x the rate of Yukon and has almost 3k more students. The city of Tukon has managed to somehow stall growth. I suspect it has a lot to do with the location of the floodplain of the river, the location of Express Ranch, and the lack of major roads to provide egress from I40 to the northern areas of Yukon.


    Are you kidding ? There is an exit from the Kilpatrick on HWY 66 on the Northeast side. Hwy 66 is a divided four lane from the East on the North side . You have access from I-40 on GB Blvd, Czech Hall and Mustang Rd., (all 4 lane roads) all for a mere 2.5 miles of town North to the floodplain.
    There are no egress problems to Yukon from East, South or West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellaboo View Post
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    Are you kidding ? There is an exit from the Kilpatrick on HWY 66 on the Northeast side. Hwy 66 is a divided four lane from the East on the North side . You have access from I-40 on GB Blvd, Czech Hall and Mustang Rd., (all 4 lane roads) all for a mere 2.5 miles of town North to the floodplain.
    There are no egress problems to Yukon from East, South or West.
    Wow, where to start here? Thank you for emphasizing my main point. There are NO major roads to provide egress from I40 to the northern areas of Yukon. I'm making the point about access to the undeveloped portions of the city of Yukon whose northern boundary is Wilshire.

    1. As pointed out there is the Kilpatrick turnpike. No disagreement there, so my choices are to exit on either Main St or Wilshire. Anything north of Main St is a two lane unimproved asphalt road and if you consider Wilshire west of Kilpatrick as sufficient to support any sort of regular traffic you are sorely mistaken.

    2. Main St in Yukon is bisected by a grade level railroad crossing which will at times impede traffic. Main St west of Ranchwood is also limited to 30 mph until you are west of Garth Brooks.

    3. Mustang Rd doesn't exist in Yukon. That road is named Yukon Parkway within city limits. It becomes a two lane unimproved asphalt road north of Main St. and is limited to 35 mph north of the railroad tracks.

    4. Czech Hall Rd doesn't exit in Yukon. That road is named Cornwell within city limits. North of Main St it becomes a narrow two lane highway but it does gain a shoulder 1/4 mile south of Wilshire.

    5. Garth Brooks Blvd becomes a two lane unimproved asphalt road north of Main St. The speed on Garth Brooks is limited to 35 mph.

    In addition Yukon is patrolled by an over zealous police force that will ticket you for 1 mph over the limit. This makes traversing across the developed city area a big pain.
    The main gist of all this is going to be that for the most part Yukon is tapped out on development except for the land left over in the Frisco Rd area and anything that hasn't been developed along Main St. All it will take is for Walmart to decide it wants to relocate across I40 to build a larger store and Yukon's commercial tax base will collapse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cxl144 View Post
    Wow, where to start here? Thank you for emphasizing my main point. There are NO major roads to provide egress from I40 to the northern areas of Yukon. I'm making the point about access to the undeveloped portions of the city of Yukon whose northern boundary is Wilshire.
    1. As pointed out there is the Kilpatrick turnpike. No disagreement there, so my choices are to exit on either Main St or Wilshire. Anything north of Main St is a two lane unimproved asphalt road and if you consider Wilshire west of Kilpatrick as sufficient to support any sort of regular traffic you are sorely mistaken.

    2. Main St in Yukon is bisected by a grade level railroad crossing which will at times impede traffic. Main St west of Ranchwood is also limited to 30 mph until you are west of Garth Brooks.

    3. Mustang Rd doesn't exist in Yukon. That road is named Yukon Parkway within city limits. It becomes a two lane unimproved asphalt road north of Main St. and is limited to 35 mph north of the railroad tracks.

    4. Czech Hall Rd doesn't exit in Yukon. That road is named Cornwell within city limits. North of Main St it becomes a narrow two lane highway but it does gain a shoulder 1/4 mile south of Wilshire.

    5. Garth Brooks Blvd becomes a two lane unimproved asphalt road north of Main St. The speed on Garth Brooks is limited to 35 mph.

    In addition Yukon is patrolled by an over zealous police force that will ticket you for 1 mph over the limit. This makes traversing across the developed city area a big pain.
    The main gist of all this is going to be that for the most part Yukon is tapped out on development except for the land left over in the Frisco Rd area and anything that hasn't been developed along Main St. All it will take is for Walmart to decide it wants to relocate across I40 to build a larger store and Yukon's commercial tax base will collapse.
    Your point is ? You said no major roads to the North side of Yukon. .First off, why would you need a lot of egress to farmland ?. well, on GB Blvd, from I-40 it's only 1.5 miles to the RR tracks, and points to the North will never be developed because of the 100 year flood plain.
    I know Yukon better than most, I'm good friends with Shirley Cornwell whose grandpa Cornwell Avenue was named after. I moved there when the population was around 3,000. And in the 60's we called it Czech Hall Rd and Cornwell as the same. Yukon Parkway has been Yukon Parkway for just a few years now, and we all know why. The exit for Czech and Cornwell is more about Czech Hall Rd than Cornwell. There is no egress from I-40 to Cornwell, it's either 10th Street or Czech Hall. My point about Mustang Road, which is the exit from I-40, is why I used it as the reference point. You know how long that 2 mile stretch of Yukon Parkway has been called Mustang Road ? Well, it's been Mustang Road for decades.
    But besides all this technical rash, out of the 26 or so square miles of Yukon, the North Canadian river bottom makes up the majority of the corporate city limits, all the way to Banner from Sara Road. Yukon has more 4 lane roads in it's population density than it really needs.
    Now what your point is about - Undeveloped land that will never be developed in a flood plain ? Even though my reference was about you claiming NO egress from I-40. You have three 2 lane roads that serve that area off of main street. Richland, Cemetery and St HWY 4, lets call it this instead of Cornwell. Now there is a state plan to increase this road to 4 lanes in the works, but it's still years out. But for the areas to the Northwest, I don't think the sparseness in the area would qualify.
    Tax base collapse ? On GB Blvd, everything South of the interstate where the building is booming is in Yukon, no worry about a collapse there.
    And to end it.... Cops giving a ticket for 1 MPH over ? You just lost all credibility.

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