Nov 4 tax propositions

[Easy180]

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Exactly -- for the whole 10% of the community this will benefit, 100% of the community will have to pick up the cost. As opposed, to say, the $15 million going toward Moore schools which would subsequently benefit all of Moore (and have a greater positive impact on property values).

A property tax on all homeowners to benefit a select few as a result of developer influence is an irresponsible use of taxation. Plain and simple.

A select few? Me thinks you no drive around the 19th area

[s00nr1]

Pretty disappointed with the City of Moore after reading the text they decided to use for proposition 1 on the ballot. Uninformed voters are being led to believe the passing of the proposition will lead to improvements to streets and bridges all across Moore, as there is not a single mention the property tax increase funds will be used exclusively for the new 34th St. bridge.

[Roger S]

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A select few? Me thinks you no drive around the 19th area

I drive through there regularly.... Still don't want to fund this bridge by having my property taxes raised.

Should have been a sales tax so that people using that bridge coming from outside Moore could help pay for it.

[Zuplar]

Pretty disappointed with the City of Moore after reading the text they decided to use for proposition 1 on the ballot. Uninformed voters are being led to believe the passing of the proposition will lead to improvements to streets and bridges all across Moore, as there is not a single mention the property tax increase funds will be used exclusively for the new 34th St. bridge.

Do you have the wording? That sounds like a shame. I hate the wording on the ballots sometimes, cause if you are reading some of them for the first time when voting you could vote wrong. I sometimes wonder if those who write it, do so to get the votes they want.

[s00nr1]

The other interesting thing to note is the terminology stating a 20-year bond maturity as opposed to the 15 years previously mentioned.

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[Zuplar]

Yep I can see how people are going to vote for that.

[bille]

Voted no but I know it'll pass. I'll use it regularly but I don't like the approach. The city has been too proactive with bringing in business and too reactive to the amount of traffic it's already creating. The bridge, even if it did have on/off ramps, will only slightly help with the traffic, with the businesses/housing in the area there needs to be an entire revamping of the 19th street bridge and I35 service roads.

[s00nr1]

Voted no but I know it'll pass. I'll use it regularly but I don't like the approach. The city has been too proactive with bringing in business and too reactive to the amount of traffic it's already creating. The bridge, even if it did have on/off ramps, will only slightly help with the traffic, with the businesses/housing in the area there needs to be an entire revamping of the 19th street bridge and I35 service roads.

19th St. will still be a nightmare due to poor planning. That will not change with the addition of a bridge at 34th.

[Zuplar]

Looks like it passed. After seeing the wording not surprised. I wonder how many people originally were voting no on the bridge ended up voting yes. Never going to know just something to think about.

[Plutonic Panda]

I'm surpised they were allowed to word it like that.

Why would it be so hard to just say:

"Do you approve of a property increase of x dollars of month for a new bridge to be constructed south of 19th Street.

Yes

No"

[Easy180]

This will be a definite quality of life improvement for thousands of us that live in and frequent this area...Excited that it passed

[s00nr1]

This will be a definite quality of life improvement for thousands of us that live in and frequent this area...Excited that it passed

Congrats. Let's just hope the Moore City Council follows through on its promise to press ODoT for I-35 access.

[Easy180]

Congrats. Let's just hope the Moore City Council follows through on its promise to press ODoT for I-35 access.

They better or it takes a good amount of my excitement away.

[Robert_M]

Since some brought it up Moore Monthly had this video posted on their site yesterday about the language. Form your own conclusions / conspiracy theory.

11nov2 eddy on ballot language FINAL on Vimeo

As for I-35 access and 4th Street underpass. Both these should be ODOT's responsibility and those concerns should be forwarded to them with calls and letters. They need to stop dragging their feet and put up the money for this since they didn't offer any help for the bridge.

[Easy180]

The comments on the city's FaceBook posts are pretty entertaining. People are really fired up over the wording but it would have passed regardless. Sure the vast majority that actually made the effort to go vote on it knew exactly what it was for.

[bucfan1512]

The comments on the city's FaceBook posts are pretty entertaining. People are really fired up over the wording but it would have passed regardless. Sure the vast majority that actually made the effort to go vote on it knew exactly what it was for.

I think an argument could be made about your last sentence. At this point is over and we have to move on regardless. Hopefully promises are kept but I will not be holding my breath.

[Robert_M]

They sent out a flier with the utility bills that described what the two propositions were for as well as the news stories they had out. I would agree that a majority of voters should have known what it they were voting on.

[sharpshooter]

I think I read somewhere that it would be 2 or 3 years at the earliest for the bridge construction to start. Not sure about that.

Like others here, I was surprised at how the proposition was worded on the ballot. Our city leaders sure know how to work the system it seems.

[Easy180]

I think I read somewhere that it would be 2 or 3 years at the earliest for the bridge construction to start. Not sure about that.

Like others here, I was surprised at how the proposition was worded on the ballot. Our city leaders sure know how to work the system it seems.

I have to agree it could have been worded better but doesn't everything pass in Moore? Part of the reason it has exploded in recent years.

[bucfan1512]

I have to agree it could have been worded better but doesn't everything pass in Moore? Part of the reason it has exploded in recent years.

That is a good point. I wonder what the last thing voted down was?

[SoonerVIC]

I think I read somewhere that it would be 2 or 3 years at the earliest for the bridge construction to start. Not sure about that.

Like others here, I was surprised at how the proposition was worded on the ballot. Our city leaders sure know how to work the system it seems.

When I was standing in line to vote, just by chance I spoke to a high ranking city official who knows about the bridge project. He said it would most likely be about a year before we saw any construction started on it. The engineering and purchasing of right of ways, etc... will take that long to get ready. I'm sure there is more to it, but that's what I took away from what he said. I don't want to mention any names to avoid him any grief in case things don't happen that soon... not because I have some "secret source inside the program". ;-)