The Rise

[warreng88]

I am just disappointed there is no nail salon, pizza place, insurance company or liquor store; you know, necessary components of a good strip mall

[DoctorTaco]

As long as there is at least one crazy wiggling arms inflatable man I'll be satisfied.

[bchris02]

Poll: 98% Of People Picture Run-Down Strip Mall Parking Lot When Word 'America' Said | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

[Rover]

Poll: 98% Of People Picture Run-Down Strip Mall Parking Lot When Word 'America' Said | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

I call BS on that one.

[CuatrodeMayo]

I'm guessing you guys don't know about The Onion?

[catch22]

I call BS on that one.

You know the onion is satire right?

*also looking at you Chris*

[Rajah]

I was much more excited about being able to walk to a rooftop bar and have whiskey and a cigar or go play Galaga... can't really trade that for a rug and a cable box and be too psyched. I agree with Pete, that there are still tons of good properties waiting to be developed. Which, I guess could've potentially been the furniture store or Cox... so now, hopefully they'll get tenants like Fedora or Flashback.

[Chadanth]

I was much more excited about being able to walk to a rooftop bar and have whiskey and a cigar or go play Galaga... can't really trade that for a rug and a cable box and be too psyched. I agree with Pete, that there are still tons of good properties waiting to be developed. Which, I guess could've potentially been the furniture store or Cox... so now, hopefully they'll get tenants like Fedora or Flashback.

Well, Fedora is supposedly going on Broadway, I bet Flashback is going to the Plaza. Maybe some other good stuff will present in the near future.

[Rover]

You know the onion is satire right?

*also looking at you Chris*

I do now.

[PhiAlpha]

Well, Fedora is supposedly going on Broadway, I bet Flashback is going to the Plaza. Maybe some other good stuff will present in the near future.

No supposedly, fedora is going on Broadway and likely won't be called Fedora.

[Chadanth]

No supposedly, fedora is going on Broadway and likely won't be called Fedora.

Why change the name? I liked it.

[Rajah]

I meant hopefully 23rd will get tenants similar to Fedora and Flashback.

[bchris02]

You know the onion is satire right?

*also looking at you Chris*

Yeah man I know. Just the post about the inflatable man with swinging arms reminded me of that article. It describes so many strip developments along NW Expressway these days.

[Uptowner]

A lot of bashing on the only developer in town willing to put their butt on the line and actually make something happen rather than sit on vacant property waiting for tif funding and benefactors. Projects like this and mesta park place (which has a vape shop btw) will pioneer the development of the entire area.

And logic suggests the cox store on villa will move. I speculate cox will blow that place up with interior design to promote what I suspect (to go along with their new advertised speeds) is a new media campaign.

Lastly if I'm Landrun I would love to have a tenant like cox. They surely have a 10 year terms and won't be going out of business. It shows my investors (who must be going insane) that I've got big brand tenants and I'm not letting my leases go unfilled for even a minute. Not great as an entertainment package development but it shows the bank I'm not fooling around.

There is alternative access to the upstairs bar via elevator. Might be worth talking to the furniture store people if they would let a third party operate it for them as a partnership. But it's probably just for parties. It would make a sweet rental place for catered events.

[Pete]

From the Urban Core FB page; canopies being redone:

[wsucougz]

This from the Landrun Facebook page today. I must say it looks better than I ever thought it could. They are doing a nice job:

[soonerguru]

i call bs on that one.

lol

[soonerguru]

EVOLUTION OF OKC TALK POSTER OPINIONS ON DEVELOPMENT ANNOUNCEMENTS


Stage 1, IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE. "Oh my God. This ________ development is going to be a GAME CHANGER. LOVE IT!!!"

Stage 2, RETROSPECTIVE DOUBT INITIATION. "Does anyone else think the design of this __________ development kind of sucks? They could have done a better job interacting with the built environment."

Stage 3, ANXIETY-FUELED DOGPILE. "I'm with _____, ______, and _______. This design totally sucks and the developer is clueless. The city is screwing this up completely. What a lost opportunity. OKC will never have a good _________ type of development again. This city and state sucks. I'm moving."

Stage 4, PREMATURE PROJECT BURIAL. "Well, now that we've concluded ________ project is a lost cause, what else could be developed there?"

Stage 5, FAINT HOPE REVIVAL. "Hey, I was driving by ________ development and noticed some dude with a shovel and another guy installing a new window! Maybe this is going to happen after all."

STAGE 6, UNJUSTIFIED EUPHORIA. "Oh, this is going to be SO COOL!"

Stage 6a, MEA CULPAS and "I TOLD YOU SO's." "OK all of you doubters who clearly don't understand development, I knew this was going to happen the whole time! Why were people doubting this project even though nothing tangible was happening on it for five years??"

Stage 7, PROJECT COMPLETION DISAPPOINTMENT. "Well, I'm really glad this __________ project got built, but I'm really more excited about this other _________ project more! Unlike this recently completed __________ project, I think this other __________ project is truly going to be a game changer for OKC!"

And the cycle repeats.

[CCOKC]

I drove by there yesterday and must say these pictures don't do this project any justice. The new facade takes it's inspiration from the original which was only recently rediscovered. Maybe someone with mad camera skills could snap a few pics?

[Plutonic Panda]

EVOLUTION OF OKC TALK POSTER OPINIONS ON DEVELOPMENT ANNOUNCEMENTS


Stage 1, IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE. "Oh my God. This ________ development is going to be a GAME CHANGER. LOVE IT!!!"

Stage 2, RETROSPECTIVE DOUBT INITIATION. "Does anyone else think the design of this __________ development kind of sucks? They could have done a better job interacting with the built environment."

Stage 3, ANXIETY-FUELED DOGPILE. "I'm with _____, ______, and _______. This design totally sucks and the developer is clueless. The city is screwing this up completely. What a lost opportunity. OKC will never have a good _________ type of development again. This city and state sucks. I'm moving."

Stage 4, PREMATURE PROJECT BURIAL. "Well, now that we've concluded ________ project is a lost cause, what else could be developed there?"

Stage 5, FAINT HOPE REVIVAL. "Hey, I was driving by ________ development and noticed some dude with a shovel and another guy installing a new window! Maybe this is going to happen after all."

STAGE 6, UNJUSTIFIED EUPHORIA. "Oh, this is going to be SO COOL!"

Stage 6a, MEA CULPAS and "I TOLD YOU SO's." "OK all of you doubters who clearly don't understand development, I knew this was going to happen the whole time! Why were people doubting this project even though nothing tangible was happening on it for five years??"

Stage 7, PROJECT COMPLETION DISAPPOINTMENT. "Well, I'm really glad this __________ project got built, but I'm really more excited about this other _________ project more! Unlike this recently completed __________ project, I think this other __________ project is truly going to be a game changer for OKC!"

And the cycle repeats.

I've been on board with this project the whole time. I don't understand the hate on Land Run here. Has anyone bitching at them developed anything before? One day I certainly want to become a developer so I need to try and maintain an open mind about this sort of stuff.

Do you honestly think Land Run wanted it to be delayed? I bet they're madder than anyone here about it. Sh't doesn't alway go according to plan and things get delayed.

As for the new tenants, not everything is going to be a new hip restaurant or an urban Target/CVS. I am perfectly fine with Cox opening up a store here. It had to go somewhere. It's tenant money for Land Run, people being employed, people being added to the street life, and whatever taxes they pay for operating. Seems like a great deal to me.

Believe it or not, people go to stores to shop for mattresses, cell phones, cable plans and accessories, light bulbs etc.

[NWOKCGuy]

As for the new tenants, not everything is going to be a new hip restaurant or an urban Target/CVS. I am perfectly fine with Cox opening up a store here. It had to go somewhere. It's tenant money for Land Run, people being employed, people being added to the street life, and whatever taxes they pay for operating. Seems like a great deal to me.

Believe it or not, people go to stores to shop for mattresses, cell phones, cable plans and accessories, light bulbs etc.

No one said everything had to be hip... but I think it's ok to be disappointed when for 2 years a developer has been promoting this as a high end development and they end up with a Cox store as a tenant.

[Plutonic Panda]

No one said everything had to be hip... but I think it's ok to be disappointed when for 2 years a developer has been promoting this as a high end development and they end up with a Cox store as a tenant.

Well I disagree.

[bchris02]

I can see both perspectives. I was really looking forward to Flashback Retropub and Fedora. Those bars, combined with Pizzeria Gusto and Pump Bar would have made that area an awesome corner for bar hopping. On top of that, it would tie in well with the Paseo which is within walking distance. A Cox store and a mattress store just doesn't have that same "cool" factor. But from a business perspective its great because its stable income. Bars/restaurants can be a revolving door. Cox isn't going anywhere.

Hopefully Flashback Retropub and Fedora end up opening somewhere else. Flashback especially was a concept I was really looking forward to.

[CuatrodeMayo]

EVOLUTION OF OKC TALK POSTER OPINIONS ON DEVELOPMENT ANNOUNCEMENTS

Spot. On.

[Rover]

I think sometimes posters on here view good economic development as anywhere they can get something alcoholic to drink or filling to eat. This rehab is shaping up to really clean up and help turn around a LONG neglected area. It is attracting both COOL places to eat and drink AND basic businesses to be used in the neighborhood. To be so disappointed that another "let's go get drunk" spot didn't happen and to neglect the REALLY COOL fact that this development survived unexpected problems and still was able to complete its mission would be a mistake. Sometimes we are so hard on the people who are really doing things to progress this city that they must feel totally unappreciated. And we wonder why so many prefer to go build a low risk strip center in the suburbs and just make money without all the hassle.