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    This is one of the dumbest news reports I've ever seen. Ebola is possible anywhere. All Dr. Oz was saying was that it could spread to nearby cities which everyone already knows. The article makes it sound like the guy singled out OKC as a particularly "possible" place for ebola. Yeesh.

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    The real solution is not very PC but sending money and educators and doctors has been going on for decades. What do we get in return? Aids and Ebola. Time to let them sink or swim on their own. I have kids and Grandkids to worry about. I have taken off my shirt and am chained to "my" post. Let the lashing begin.

  3. #128

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    does anybody know info on the second possible case the news was talking about yesterday out in Frisco Texas? It just seemed to disappear and no more talk about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesseda View Post
    does anybody know info on the second possible case the news was talking about yesterday out in Frisco Texas? It just seemed to disappear and no more talk about it
    I believe I read that they said it was unlikely he caught Ebola.

    Frisco Patient May Have Ebola (But Probably Doesn?t) | FrontBurner | D Magazine

    Frisco patient considered 'very minimal risk' for Ebola | abc13.com

    Apparently he doesn't appear to have direct contact with the patient. Maybe he said he did have contact so he can get looked at more quickly.

    "Everybody lies..."

  5. #130

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    That guy is a deputy sheriff who was in the apt of the guy that died a few days after he went to the hospital. He wasn't feeling well so as a precaution he went to get checked out. Again as a precaution he was isolated and transferred to the hospital from a Med Clinic in a special ambulance. The doctors are saying there is a 0% chance he has Ebola but they are still being cautious. The local news is making it look like it's a disaster from all the reporting and are climbing over each other to get coverage. The guys family said he's not sick from Ebola, the doctors and the CDC say the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelroy55 View Post
    That guy is a deputy sheriff who was in the apt of the guy that died a few days after he went to the hospital. He wasn't feeling well so as a precaution he went to get checked out. Again as a precaution he was isolated and transferred to the hospital from a Med Clinic in a special ambulance. The doctors are saying there is a 0% chance he has Ebola but they are still being cautious. The local news is making it look like it's a disaster from all the reporting and are climbing over each other to get coverage. The guys family said he's not sick from Ebola, the doctors and the CDC say the same thing.
    Yup, I did a bit of reading about this after it was being blown all over the net that there was "SECOND EBOLA" in Dallas, then only to find out the guy was having (primarily) upset stomach symptoms and mentioned to the quick-care clinic that he had been around Patient Zero. That set off all the alarm bells. Given how rapidly the story muted, I'm making an assumption that the docs and officials in charge really don't think he's got anything more than a poorly-timed round of some more generic stomach bug. I think someone semi-official (?) actually did, in fact, come out and say "0% chance", and I can't fathom saying that without a darned high level of confidence.

    Hope that's true. Horrendous timing, of course, and I can't blame the reaction, but still. Said it would take 24-48 hours to get the relevant tests back. The uncertainty must be ghastly for him and his family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerDave View Post
    Yup, I did a bit of reading about this after it was being blown all over the net that there was "SECOND EBOLA" in Dallas, then only to find out the guy was having (primarily) upset stomach symptoms and mentioned to the quick-care clinic that he had been around Patient Zero. That set off all the alarm bells. Given how rapidly the story muted, I'm making an assumption that the docs and officials in charge really don't think he's got anything more than a poorly-timed round of some more generic stomach bug. I think someone semi-official (?) actually did, in fact, come out and say "0% chance", and I can't fathom saying that without a darned high level of confidence.

    Hope that's true. Horrendous timing, of course, and I can't blame the reaction, but still. Said it would take 24-48 hours to get the relevant tests back. The uncertainty must be ghastly for him and his family.
    Thanks all for the info. I just thought it was odd that it was all over the news yesterday afternoon then nothing more.

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    One of the more ignorant parts of the news coverage was when they were at the deputies house talking to his son they showed the address of where a police officer lived. I doubt he wanted that plastered over the evening news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel View Post
    The real solution is not very PC but sending money and educators and doctors has been going on for decades. What do we get in return? Aids and Ebola. Time to let them sink or swim on their own. I have kids and Grandkids to worry about. I have taken off my shirt and am chained to "my" post. Let the lashing begin.
    Mel, if this isn't contained and spreads to Central America, we will be wiped out with hordes racing to the US desparately hoping for safety. It is in our national interest to stop it and in the process, help others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silvergrove View Post
    I believe I read that they said it was unlikely he caught Ebola.

    Frisco Patient May Have Ebola (But Probably Doesn?t) | FrontBurner | D Magazine

    Frisco patient considered 'very minimal risk' for Ebola | abc13.com

    Apparently he doesn't appear to have direct contact with the patient. Maybe he said he did have contact so he can get looked at more quickly.

    "Everybody lies..."
    I sincerely hope he is okay and they are reporting that he is not running a fever which makes these other symptoms unlikely to be ebola related. Since there was such alarm by the deputies that they were required to enter the apartment without appropriate gear (don't blame them a bit), this might be freak out on his part or someone with his lip out (and I don't blame him for that, either). Fingers crossed that this is a false alarm and that the other contacts remain healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel View Post
    The real solution is not very PC but sending money and educators and doctors has been going on for decades. What do we get in return? Aids and Ebola. Time to let them sink or swim on their own. I have kids and Grandkids to worry about. I have taken off my shirt and am chained to "my" post. Let the lashing begin.

    I understand your general premise, however dramatic for whatever personal reasons - but you aren’t really considering how viruses/disease spread.

    If we could hermetically seal our borders, and restrict anyone or any good from entering the united states that has had any contact with anyone /anything that has traveled internationally (all of asia, all of Europe, all of Africa, all of everywhere) because anyone/thing could potentially come in contact with someone who picked up something from somewhere else. So we basically have to shut down all of international trade/travel forever.

    I hate the idea of foreign aid; but with things like pandemic viruses we either fight it overseas or it will end up on our doorsteps. There is nothing political about it – the virus doesn’t care who you are, where you came from, or what you believe.

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    One OK State Rep wants to have a state of emergency declared before there's a single sick person in the state........

    Fallin: No need to call emergency in Oklahoma over Ebola | News OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by PennyQuilts View Post
    Mel, if this isn't contained and spreads to Central America, we will be wiped out with hordes racing to the US desparately hoping for safety.
    We will be "wiped out"? Seriously?

    Remind me, how many related cases have there been so far to the one patient?

    You keep spreading the hyperbolic fear of Ebola and now you are mixing in a fear of brown people and immigrants. That's not at all completely baseless or racist. No, not at all.

    Please note, I am not calling you a racist, but the claims and ideas you are parroting from the right wing hot air machine are indeed racist.

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    Dallas sheriff now in "good" condition, no fever, and is "very unlikely" to have Ebola.

    No signs of Ebola for Dallas deputy who fell ill after visiting patient?s home; tests expected back today | Dallas Morning News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swake View Post
    We will be "wiped out"? Seriously?

    Remind me, how many related cases have there been so far to the one patient?

    You keep spreading the hyperbolic fear of Ebola and now you are mixing in a fear of brown people and immigrants. That's not at all completely baseless or racist. No, not at all.

    Please note, I am not calling you a racist, but the claims and ideas you are parroting from the right wing hot air machine are indeed racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelroy55 View Post
    That actually happened. I was there. The actor of that movie, was actually me. Oh, and that was no movie.

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    The Ebola outbreak like many other infectious diseases that has hit our country goes through cycles & stages of concern which brings slight panic until we gather definitive information.

    Remember polio, cholera, swine flu, yellow fever and the most recent HIV-AIDS epidemic where people were concerned about the possibility of a mosquito bite transmission; it will take time to chart & study these diseases. The greatest concern today is mutation of diseases which is evident of many that we thought were eradicated make their return.

    Fast forward today; we have less trust in the media, big business, government & institutions in general as there has been a total erosion of credibility in these areas over the years. Plus, there's so much misinformation circulated on half truths and down right lies (for whatever reason or hidden agenda) that has been fed to the public that you don't know who to trust or what to believe.

    We do know this: practice personal hygiene with frequent hand washing to help minimize risks.

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    I'll be at the Texas State Fair on Saturday for the game, it will be interesting if the attendance has been affect6ed by all the news.

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    What I would be more concerned with is the spreading of viral illnesses some of which have largely been eradicated up until now. These were no doubt brought in by the thousands of unaccompanied minors from Central America months ago. I find it very hard to believe the current admin has the best interest of the American people high up on the list at this point.

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    Hey, if the lines are shorter for corny dogs and beers, I'm good with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laramie View Post
    The greatest concern today is mutation of diseases which is evident of many that we thought were eradicated make their return.
    Resurgence more so with the anti-vaccine campaigns for many viral infections and overuse of antibiotics for bacterial infections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilleslastand View Post
    What I would be more concerned with is the spreading of viral illnesses some of which have largely been eradicated up until now. These were no doubt brought in by the thousands of unaccompanied minors from Central America months ago. I find it very hard to believe the current admin has the best interest of the American people high up on the list at this point.
    Are there any stats to show this is happening?

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    I looked up infection rates by country, I found some data on Measles for instance. There are no measles outbreaks in Central America. None. No cases. The US and Canada are the only countries in the Americas with any kind of measles infection rate. It's anti-science anti-vaxers that are spreading illness here, not immigrants.

    http://www.who.int/immunization/moni...sbycountry.pdf

    Central America is poor, but nothing like what much of Africa is like. Central American countries have per capita incomes several times that countries like Liberia. Mexico is actually downright wealthy. Mexico’s per capita income is over $10,000 a year and is more than 20x that of Liberia. Average income in Mexico is 50% higher than China’s per capita income.

    The people making these claims about Latin American immigrants and the refugee children spreading illness are racists fanning the flames of fear.

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    Tests on the Dallas sheriff have come back *NEGATIVE* for Ebola. He does *not* have Ebola. The quick-care clinic he visited has reopened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PennyQuilts View Post
    They are reporting that a deputy who entered the first ebola patient's apartment has presented with ebola symptoms and he was transfered from Frisco to the same hospital for evaluation. A witness described him entering the facility, looking very sick and leaning on his wife. Very frightening. Hopefully, he does not have the disease.
    Even more hopefully: I hope SHE doesn't either.
    (never mind: the outbreak has apparently been nipped in the bud)

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