OHP to Okla. women; Want to avoid getting raped by the police? Don't break the law.

[BBatesokc]

In a head-scratching WTH moment, apparently a member of the Oklahoma Highway Patrol (on way too long of a leash) told a reporter that if the women of Oklahoma want to best avoid being sexually assaulted by a member of Oklahoma law enforcement then obey all traffic laws and 'don't get pulled over.'

Seriously? That's the opinion of law enforcement on how to avoid getting raped by one of their own.

And, in case you're keeping count, the article cites three law enforcement officers being accused of being rapists in recent days - in reality its at least 4 and if you broaden the timeline the numbers grow quite a bit....... And we are not talking about single accuser incidents - we are talking about serial rapes with multiple victims per officer.

As reported at HuffingtonPost.com.

Cop's Tip For Not Getting Raped By A Cop: 'Don't Get Pulled Over'


Love the troopers other suggestions;

1.) Keep your door locked and speak to the officer through a cracked window.

2.) Ask the trooper why you should get out of your car.

100% guarantee, if you refuse to pull over in an isolated location and instead drive to a public one, and then only lower your window while keeping your door locked you're gonna get yanked out of the vehicle and slammed to the ground. And when it happens, I hope the defense attorney kept a copy of this article to read to the jury.

Also hope this is thrown in DA Prater's face during the Pear Pearson trial.

What's is going on with our local law enforcement?

[Plutonic Panda]

You should always keep your door locked and only crack your window when dealing with police. I've never had any issues with that.

[zookeeper]

That really is just unbelievable. Heads should roll at OHP and new leadership brought in from the outside.

As for local law enforcement, troubles almost always begin at the top. OCPD's Chief (Bill Citty) should never have had the office in the first place.

[adaniel]

Almost certain this is not true:

Fact-check: Did Oklahoma Hwy Patrol Captain George Brown Blame Police Assaults On Victims?

[Mel]

Besides if the cop really wants to pull someone over they will. No matter how well you are driving. Dash cams NOW!

[adaniel]

That really is just unbelievable. Heads should roll at OHP and new leadership brought in from the outside.

As for local law enforcement, troubles almost always begin at the top. OCPD's Chief (Bill Citty) should never have had the office in the first place.

I don't know what your issue is with Bill Citty. He is one of the more progressive law enforcement figures in the state. In a locale with so many hang em high/Barney Fife types, OKC is lucky to have him.

[Urbanized]

Completely agree about Bill Citty. I've worked with and interacted with him on multiple occasions, and I think the guy is pure class. Very impressive from an enforcement standpoint, and yet not at all tolerant of misbehaving cops.

[Plutonic Panda]

Almost certain this is not true:

Fact-check: Did Oklahoma Hwy Patrol Captain George Brown Blame Police Assaults On Victims?

It is true

from your source

There’s an image that claims Oklahoma Highway Patrol Captain George Brown made the statement that if women didn’t want to be assaulted by police officers, they shouldn’t do things that would cause them to be pulled over in the first place.

- See more at: Fact-check: Did Oklahoma Hwy Patrol Captain George Brown Blame Police Assaults On Victims?

The police work for us... not the other way around. I'm not saying we can tell them what to do, but they need to remember their place. Saying "if women didn’t want to be assaulted by police officers, they shouldn’t do things that would cause them to be pulled over in the first place." is absolute insanity.

[Plutonic Panda]

Besides if the cop really wants to pull someone over they will. No matter how well you are driving. Dash cams NOW!

The OHP has dash cams in all of their cars, if I remember correctly.

[zookeeper]

I don't know what your issue is with Bill Citty. He is one of the more progressive law enforcement figures in the state. In a locale with so many hang em high/Barney Fife types, OKC is lucky to have him.

Well, for starters, read this post from Brian Bates - http://www.okctalk.com/politics/3886...tml#post824604

[zookeeper]

Completely agree about Bill Citty. I've worked with and interacted with him on multiple occasions, and I think the guy is pure class. Very impressive from an enforcement standpoint, and yet not at all tolerant of misbehaving cops.

I would take major issue with that. But, I will leave it alone. Friendly guy, I will say that.

[zookeeper]

I don't know what your issue is with Bill Citty. He is one of the more progressive law enforcement figures in the state. In a locale with so many hang em high/Barney Fife types, OKC is lucky to have him.

I'm really curious....you base that on what? You obviously don't know Bill Citty. A "progressive law enforcement official" who has successfully kept dash cams out of this city's patrol cars. He doesn't want the accountability. Anybody who really knows him knows this!

[Urbanized]

All I can say is that I have been in a number of meetings with the man and he has struck me as genuinely concerned about the issues that a few people here have suggested he is UNconcerned with. I'll leave it at that.

[Mel]

The OHP has dash cams in all of their cars, if I remember correctly.

Did not know that. I try VERY hard to stay off any LEO's radar.

[Jersey Boss]

Well, for starters, read this post from Brian Bates - http://<b>http://www.okctalk.com/pol...post824604</b>

I believe this to be a more insightful than "he's a friendly guy."

[kevinpate]

The OHP has dash cams in all of their cars, if I remember correctly.

Yes, Plu, they do. However, each one has a switch that permits the trooper to turn it on and off.

It's rather difficult to see how a dash cam which can be easily overridden by a trooper (and apparently this has happened in time frames which match up to some of the allegations) is of much use to the motorist.

[zookeeper]

I believe this to be a more insightful than "he's a friendly guy."

Oh, Jersey Boss, no doubt. I was really just trying to gracefully exit the conversation by mentioning the fact that he's personable (because that's all some see)...my link to Brian's post says much more about Bill Citty. No way most anybody could rise to the top with a blemish like that on their record - I don't care how long it's been.

[Jersey Boss]

Yes, Plu, they do. However, each one has a switch that permits the trooper to turn it on and off.

It's rather difficult to see how a dash cam which can be easily overridden by a trooper (and apparently this has happened in time frames which match up to some of the allegations) is of much use to the motorist.

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[Tritone]

"Don't break the law" is not the best response. While OHP does have dash cams, was there not a discussion that the video shot by them is exempt from public record (pardon my non-lawyer terminology)?

[kevinpate]

"Don't break the law" is not the best response. While OHP does have dash cams, was there not a discussion that the video shot by them is exempt from public record (pardon my non-lawyer terminology)?

That changes in a few weeks.

[kelroy55]

It is true

from your source



The police work for us... not the other way around. I'm not saying we can tell them what to do, but they need to remember their place. Saying "if women didn’t want to be assaulted by police officers, they shouldn’t do things that would cause them to be pulled over in the first place." is absolute insanity.

Wasn't this also from his source?

"Here’s the problem: the quote “then follow the law in the first place so you don’t get pulled over” comes from the newscaster at the end of the video, not the Highway Patrol captain. This quote pulls two parts of the entire news story together completely out of context. Captain George Brown’s appearance on the video tells people about what they should expect when dealing with law enforcement when pulled over and offers safety tips. However, the deputy who was arrested for assaulting women was responding to a call at a residence, not making a traffic stop. The “then follow the law in the first place so you don’t get pulled over” quote is also not only not uttered on the video by the officer, but it’s at the end of the video when the anchor is talking about traffic stops, and not directly in regards to the story about the accused deputy. -"

[kevinpate]

OHP has enough image issue at present without any need for trashing the group based on someone else's comments.

[amberda]

If you read the entire fact check article it mentions that it was a newscaster who made the comment, not the chief. The Texas group that posted this info seems to have cut some things together out of context. It also posts links to the original video, not the edited version.

"Here’s the problem: the quote “then follow the law in the first place so you don’t get pulled over” comes from the newscaster at the end of the video, not the Highway Patrol captain. This quote pulls two parts of the entire news story together completely out of context. Captain George Brown’s appearance on the video tells people about what they should expect when dealing with law enforcement when pulled over and offers safety tips. However, the deputy who was arrested for assaulting women was responding to a call at a residence, not making a traffic stop. The “then follow the law in the first place so you don’t get pulled over” quote is also not only not uttered on the video by the officer, but it’s at the end of the video when the anchor is talking about traffic stops, and not directly in regards to the story about the accused deputy."

[bombermwc]

I agree with kelroy here....

People are great for pulling things out of context. I don't think ive ever found anything that shows the OHP being anything other than supportive of the people. Both OHP and OCPD immediately started trashing the accused officers before a trial...basically at arrest time. I thought that rather odd considering they usually just don't comment. It's the best non b.s. comments they could have had. "we know they did it and we're not going to try and cover it or good-ole-boy it, we threw their butts in jail". I'd say that's pretty good. Identify the problem and handle it...what more do you want?

Not to be confused with the retired officer from Detroit that did say "just don't break the law" or "do what I say" or something. It's not exactly what he meant, but of course the media focused on that line. The main idea here was, if you know you aren't supposed to run a red light or whatever, then don't get all pissy when you get pulled over for it just because you finally got caught. And arguing about it isn't going to do anything other than get you in more trouble. There are great officers out there and there are plenty d-i-c-k-s too. But that's true of all people.

[Urbanized]

So...a special interest with an axe to grind intentionally misrepresented a statement by someone from the group they oppose for dramatic and sensationalistic effect? Say it isn't so...