Cabela's

[Dubya61]

Channel 5 had an editorial video where they praised Councilman Shadid for his concerns, but also praised the city for their investment.

[Pete]

It just sets a bad precedent.

The only others we paid before were truly new and unique to the market at the time.

Cabela's is effectively like Bass Pro and if it's considered unique, then wouldn't every retailer new to OKC meet the same criteria?

Also, in the case where a chain is looking to open one location, there is very little risk it won't be located within the city limits.


It's not the money, it's that this will open the floodgates for every new-to-market business, because any could make the exact same case as Cabela's.

[BoulderSooner]

Cabela's is effectively like Bass Pro

Disagree

[Pete]

Disagree

How are they different?

I realize they are different companies but they have the same departments and the two stores will also be about the same size.

My point is there is enough differentiation that any other company (like Costco v. Sams) could also claim to be 'unique'.

[OKCisOK4me]

How are they different?

I realize they are different companies but they have the same departments and the two stores will also be about the same size.

My point is there is enough differentiation that any other company (like Costco v. Sams) could also claim to be 'unique'.

I'll take this one.

Bass Pro is more of a touristy, kids are down with Bass Pro like they're down with Mossimo or No Fear head to toe clothing plus your everyday outdoor gear for the amateur outdoor enthusiast.

Cabelas on the other hand is a outdoor sporting good provider store for the elite of outdoor enthusiasts. My dad reloads his own bullets, he's a man's man when it comes to guns and hunting. He has a Cabelas credit card and has always ordered goods from them via catalogs or online orders. He's never set one foot in a Bass Pro shop or parking lot for that matter.

They're each perceived in a different light even though they both cater to the same crowd...

[Just the facts]

On the plus side, this should allow OKC to redevelop the Bass Pro site in a few years. How long does Randy Hogan have control of Lower Bricktown?

[Urbanized]

Until he sells it. He OWNS it.

Bass Pro, on the other hand, is owned by the City (the property, that is), and is in no danger of being redeveloped. It makes money hand over fist.

[bluedogok]

They're each perceived in a different light even though they both cater to the same crowd...

I'll put that in terms that some here might understand......

Bass Pro=Sam's
Cabela's=Costco

[Plutonic Panda]

I'll put that in terms that some here might understand......

Bass Pro=Sam's
Cabela's=Costco

man... I'll have to take some pictures of the Bass Pro in Bricktown.... It seems some have never been to that one. I've never been in any else where, but this one had to have millions poured into it and it is no way shape or form comparable to a low end cheaply store like SAMs or Walmart

[bluedogok]

man... I'll have to take some pictures of the Bass Pro in Bricktown.... It seems some have never been to that one. I've never been in any else where, but this one had to have millions poured into it and it is no way shape or form comparable to a low end cheaply store like SAMs or Walmart

I was talking about customer perception, I was just trying to put it in terms that some would understand. To me there is no great difference between a Costco store and a Sam's store but some feel there is this huge chasm between the two. I do think there is a slightly better quality to the store brand clothing at Cabela's than there is at Bass Pro, I have plenty of casual clothes from both but prefer Cabela's, it's easier to get to for us. For the most part the Bass Pro and Cabela's stores are very similar in construction/style.

Most Sam's/Walmart stores are not "cheap" anymore, not like they were when the first ones were built in MWC and I-40 & MacArthur, those were some of the first Sam's stores in existence, they are far from that anymore. A Nordstrom they aren't but they aren't Star metal buildings either.

[Plutonic Panda]

I was talking about customer perception, I was just trying to put it in terms that some would understand. To me there is no great difference between a Costco store and a Sam's store but some feel there is this huge chasm between the two. I do think there is a slightly better quality to the store brand clothing at Cabela's than there is at Bass Pro, I have plenty of casual clothes from both but prefer Cabela's, it's easier to get to for us. For the most part the Bass Pro and Cabela's stores are very similar in construction/style.

Most Sam's/Walmart stores are not "cheap" anymore, not like they were when the first ones were built in MWC and I-40 & MacArthur, those were some of the first Sam's stores in existence, they are far from that anymore. A Nordstrom they aren't but they aren't Star metal buildings either.

Oh, I see.. my bad

[Plutonic Panda]

Game for Cabela?s: OKC Council approves $3.5M agreement with sporting goods chain | The Journal Record

[WaywardMemphian]

It just sets a bad precedent.

The only others we paid before were truly new and unique to the market at the time.

Cabela's is effectively like Bass Pro and if it's considered unique, then wouldn't every retailer new to OKC meet the same criteria?

Also, in the case where a chain is looking to open one location, there is very little risk it won't be located within the city limits.


It's not the money, it's that this will open the floodgates for every new-to-market business, because any could make the exact same case as Cabela's.

I don't think the Cabela's here in NWA got much in the way of incentives. I agree that Bass Pro and Cabela's are now just big box retail formula stores and that it's not the unique thing it used to be and don't get the incentives they still seek. I've been in many in my travels and have to say there's not that much difference. I will give the nod to Bass Pro of the usual aquarium centerpiece, they really try to make them different from store to store, Cabela's seems to have that one look it goes for. Bass Pro is getting more adventurous in it's non Springfield stores, they are turning the Pyramid Arena in Memphis into a store, it will have a 100 room hotel that overlooks a cypress swamp complete with full size replica trees and alligators in what used to be the arena floor, along with a glass elevator to the observation deck that was to have had a Hard Rock Café once but was never opened to the public. The City did do the seismic retrofit for the project and it wasn't cheap.

[bchris02]

I don't think the Cabela's here in NWA got much in the way of incentives. I agree that Bass Pro and Cabela's are now just big box retail formula stores and that it's not the unique thing it used to be and don't get the incentives they still seek. I've been in many in my travels and have to say there's not that much difference. I will give the nod to Bass Pro of the usual aquarium centerpiece, they really try to make them different from store to store, Cabela's seems to have that one look it goes for. Bass Pro is getting more adventurous in it's non Springfield stores, they are turning the Pyramid Arena in Memphis into a store, it will have a 100 room hotel that overlooks a cypress swamp complete with full size replica trees and alligators in what used to be the arena floor, along with a glass elevator to the observation deck that was to have had a Hard Rock Café once but was never opened to the public. The City did do the seismic retrofit for the project and it wasn't cheap.

Is this back on track? I remember it being talked about in the mid-2000s but it never actually happened.

[WaywardMemphian]

Is this back on track? I remember it being talked about in the mid-2000s but it never actually happened.

oh yeah, it's full on, balls to the walls construction going on right now. It will also have a Ducks Unlimited Waterfowling Museum.

[Pete]

$12.15 million building permit filed today for an 80,030 square foot structure.

[Zuplar]

I'll definitely go for the bargain cave once they open.

[Plutonic Panda]

$12.15 million building permit filed today for an 80,030 square foot structure.

Sorry, but does that mean they are free to start construction or does it have to get approved first?

[oklip955]

I'll most likely run into you in the bargain cave Lots of good deals on stuff. A lot of it is returns from their cataloge which was the wrong size for the person who ordered it or something like that.

[okclee]

Are most of the Cabelas built the same?

I'm asking because Bass Pro has so many different type of new stores. The Bass Pro in Colorado Springs has an underground bowling alley.

[poe]

With that square footage, I bet it is built like the store in Wichita. Their website says that store is 80,000 square feet.

[bluedogok]

The stores here in the Denver area are 90,000 (Thornton) and 110,000 (Lone Tree). I know the 80,000 is pretty much their standard size they are building to now as opposed to the 185,000 sf store in Buda south of Austin. That may have been the last of the mega stores for them from an article I read somewhere.

[Soonerman]

The one in Fort Worth is over 200,000 sf.

[bluedogok]

There are several bigger but most of those huge ones were built before 2009, they have modified their design standard to a couple of smaller ones in a market (like they did here in Denver) instead of one large one in a market the size of Fort Worth or Austin. There was an article in the Denver Business Journal about the change when the ones up here were announced.

[jn1780]

Dirt work has started on this.