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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewmperry View Post
    I eat on the patio at every restaurant that has a patio...
    Seeing the view from S&B's patio on May north of Memorial, and in 30 MPH wind in 95 degree weather, why? Seriously, you do even in crappy weather where everything needs to be nailed down to the table and you're wiping sweat off every 5 minutes, and having really nothing to look at with some patios? I like the heat, but I'm not that much of a masochist...

  2. #1102

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    I sit outside at Louie's all the time. You know we have a lot of months where it's not 95 degrees all the time.

  3. #1103

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTravellers View Post
    Seeing the view from S&B's patio on May north of Memorial, and in 30 MPH wind in 95 degree weather, why? Seriously, you do even in crappy weather where everything needs to be nailed down to the table and you're wiping sweat off every 5 minutes, and having really nothing to look at with some patios? I like the heat, but I'm not that much of a masochist...
    What a ray of sunshine you are. Plenty of people really like to eat outside when possible. Cafe 7 adding six outdoor tables gives people this option, and I'm sure they will be used quite frequently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoThunder View Post
    What a ray of sunshine you are. Plenty of people really like to eat outside when possible. Cafe 7 adding six outdoor tables gives people this option, and I'm sure they will be used quite frequently.
    I totally agree. I eat outside every time I have that option unless the weather is just miserable.

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    Yep, if anything I predict 6 tables aren't enough.

  6. #1106

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    Quote Originally Posted by metro View Post
    Yep, if anything I predict 6 tables aren't enough.
    That's true. But it really gives it that European "happening" place feel when the tables are scarce and coveted. It allows the outside to be intimate. Great place.

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    I dont personally want to eat outside, but there are plenty of people that do in all kinds of weather. You can do a lot to make an area like that accommodating too. Throw an awning on there with some fans and then a clear plastic wall on one end to block the wind tunnel, and the place really can be nice. I can't say i'd really want to sit there uncovered, but hey, someone people are into that.

  8. #1108

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    Have any of you eaten at Cafe 7 on a weekday lunch hour? Sometimes there is no seats inside. Outside seating would only help the issue and it would be used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous. View Post
    Have any of you eaten at Cafe 7 on a weekday lunch hour? Sometimes there is no seats inside. Outside seating would only help the issue and it would be used.
    Agreed. My concern is this location will be very tight for foot traffic. Other than that, I think it's a great idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoThunder View Post
    What a ray of sunshine you are. Plenty of people really like to eat outside when possible. Cafe 7 adding six outdoor tables gives people this option, and I'm sure they will be used quite frequently.
    Wasn't being a downer on Cafe 7, I hope it works for them. If the weather is decent, I'll consider eating outside "when possible", but *my* "decent" may not match other folks' definition of "decent", just seems like that whenever we eat out, it's just not quite "decent" enough to eat outside (and other folks on the thread feel the same way, so I'm not an outlier here ). We only get to eat out once a week, usually on Saturday around lunch, so we like it to be pleasurable and just don't wanna mess with the outside stuff.

    Oh, and my wife usually gets her food to go or eats later since she starts work after noon, so finding a table isn't a problem for her, usually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTravellers View Post
    Seeing the view from S&B's patio on May north of Memorial, and in 30 MPH wind in 95 degree weather, why? Seriously, you do even in crappy weather where everything needs to be nailed down to the table and you're wiping sweat off every 5 minutes, and having really nothing to look at with some patios? I like the heat, but I'm not that much of a masochist...
    It's funny how OKC is the only city in the world where it is hot, windy, and humid. Not a single other city on the planet has to contend with the elements. Amazing. [/sarc]

    I sit outside every chance I get. The only down side is that so do many smokers. I actually wish they would make the outside tables 'no smoking' as well.

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    Can we please get Cafe 7 open evenings? I don't work downtown so it's only on rare occasions I even get to eat there, but I love it. If they were open evenings and weekends I would definitely eat there very often. The menu is varied enough that I could eat there multiple times a week. And, incidentally, make use of the tables outside as it cools off in the shadows with the sun behind the buildings...

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    ^

    I would think that finishing P180 along with implementing ideas from the newly-commissioned Park Avenue Retail Study will go a long way towards Cafe 7 considering extending their hours.

    As it is, neighboring Coolgreens chose to completely close until the dust settles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    ^

    I would think that finishing P180 along with implementing ideas from the newly-commissioned Park Avenue Retail Study will go a long way towards Cafe 7 considering extending their hours.

    As it is, neighboring Coolgreens chose to completely close until the dust settles.
    Dang you, Pete! Everytime I see your name as the latest poster in this thread, I'm expecting to learn you have bombshell news. And it's not just this thread!
    You've spoiled many of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zookeeper View Post
    Dang you, Pete! Everytime I see your name as the latest poster in this thread, I'm expecting to learn you have bombshell news. And it's not just this thread!
    You've spoiled many of us.
    The owner's deadline for bid submission is July 17th, so we may know something very soon.

    And from what I know, I think it is going to be good news.

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    My hope is this. It gets converted into housing. This will be OKC's first real test for high-rise residential. If it's successful, which is probably certainly will be, then that will open the door for some new residential tower construction down the line.

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    I live in the tallest residential tower in OKC that was opened in 1967... not exactly sure what "first real test for high-rise residential" means... it may not be the ideal, but it's always full. That should mean SOMEthing...

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    OKC can and will support a large high-rise residential tower. It is matter of time now.

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    City Place, Founders Tower, Lakeshore Tower, The Classen...

    All tall structures with residential units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bchris02 View Post
    My hope is this. It gets converted into housing. This will be OKC's first real test for high-rise residential. If it's successful, which is probably certainly will be, then that will open the door for some new residential tower construction down the line.
    My hope is this, you move to Dallas before the end of the year. Oh and for First National, the opposite of what you want, so some class A spec space.

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    I thought the FNC was going to become a hotel.

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    Regency Tower is the tallest full residential and from what I understand it stays pretty full and has for years. I would like to see a 40 story residential downtown to start off with. I would imagine it would fill up quickly and stay full as long as the prices were fair.

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    ^

    Thanks!

    Exciting to think how much this scene could change in the near future, with Project 180, the likely sale of FNC and the effort to develop Park Avenue into a retail corridor.

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    Park Harvey tower also is full residential.

    OKC has plenty of options for the current market, I'd expect it to only grow and support the rumored new construction about to come online as well.
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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