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  1. #1076

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Small thing, but Cafe 7 is adding a small outdoor patio to the north of their restaurant, along Park Ave.

    Should add some street life. And remember, the City just commissioned a big study in hopes of creating a retail corridor along Park.
    Cool! I've always thought that street is our best CBD option for something like 16th St in Denver (although much shorter and not closed to vehicles). Wish they would add to their hours.

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    Has Cafe 7 extended their hours yet? I know they were considering it. That is one of my favorite lunch eateries in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan View Post
    Has Cafe 7 extended their hours yet? I know they were considering it. That is one of my favorite lunch eateries in the world.
    They had not last week when I was around. Still open to about 2:30pm.

    I will say they are lit up on Saturdays with people inside. I think they run catering out of there or something.

  4. #1079

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    Has a permit been filed for a smoothie place? I saw a new sign on the window of the long vacant retail space, but didn't get up close to read it.

    The Cafe 7 patio will be great, once the P180 work is complete.

    Also, no one has mentioned that super classy vape store!

  5. #1080

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Cotter View Post
    Has a permit been filed for a smoothie place? I saw a new sign on the window of the long vacant retail space, but didn't get up close to read it.

    The Cafe 7 patio will be great, once the P180 work is complete.

    Also, no one has mentioned that super classy vape store!
    Where exactly are the smoothie and vapor store located?

  6. #1081

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    The vapor store is in the very narrow spot where the OK Tourism shop was until about a year ago.

    I'm not sure there will be a smoothie shop, just that I saw a sign. It's in the old department store spot that's been empty for the three years I've lived here. It was used as a temporary space by an artist for a while, maybe last summer?

  7. #1082

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    What are the chances of seeing this splendid building as a luxury hotel with residential on the upper floors? I understand the parking problems and limited room for road re-construction to suit a hotel, but it just begs for a purpose it deserves. Downtown Oklahoma City's jewel of a building to me. To have it in local hands again will be a good start to it becoming great once again.

  8. #1083

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    Quote Originally Posted by zookeeper View Post
    What are the chances of seeing this splendid building as a luxury hotel with residential on the upper floors? I understand the parking problems and limited room for road re-construction to suit a hotel, but it just begs for a purpose it deserves.
    Of the people interested in the property, it seems they all believe the tower would be best suited for a hotel and/or residential and the remainder of the complex would be some combination of parking structure and office.

    The problem is the current owners want way too much for any ambitious plans to work. However, their income stream has drastically been reduced and they can't continue to carry it forever.

    Hopefully, something will happen here soon. I know there are people taking a run at it.

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    I almost want the city to buy it and do it on its own. We keep having people buy the place and either hold it or make promises they can't keep. Like zookeeper, I've always felt like it was the jewel of downtown. It's a shame it's been allowed to fall into such disrepair. But I always thought it a shame that the additions were so mismatched as well...bleh.

    We've talked this one till it's dead, but I agree that as a commercial property, the tower just isn't feasible any longer in the way that it's done. We need a gutting of the floors no matter what goes in. Bring the infrastructure up to current needs (especially electrical and HVAC).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Cotter View Post
    The vapor store is in the very narrow spot where the OK Tourism shop was until about a year ago.

    I'm not sure there will be a smoothie shop, just that I saw a sign. It's in the old department store spot that's been empty for the three years I've lived here. It was used as a temporary space by an artist for a while, maybe last summer?
    Is there much of a market in the CBD for a vape store? I mean this isn't the infamous South Robinson lol.

  11. #1086

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    I'm sure any lease that is being signed at this point is very short term or even month-to-month.

    Nothing would make me happier than for this complex to be purchased by a responsible local owner.

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    Oh, you can tell it's short term. Vapin Nuts. It's just sad, and I hate walking past it.

    And there is no smoothie shop. The sign was for LT's Deli, letting everyone walking down Park know that they had "gourmet smoothies." Whatever those are...

  13. #1088

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    Another nice move by wonderful owners.

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    A this point I think they'd accept a lease from a crack dealer if they thought it would bring in some rent.

  15. #1090

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    There was an article in the Journal Record today that said the current owners purposely have not set an asking price and have set a July 17th deadline for bids.

    Hopefully, we'll learn more then and it will be good news.

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    I think there is a lot of jockeying going on amongst multiple interested potential players, so it will be interesting to see who, if anyone, actually lands FNC from the current owner.

  17. #1092

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    In that JR article, the broker handling the listing mentioned there were several interested parties from out of state.

    Will be interesting to see how this all shakes out and if any one can offer enough to satisfy the current owners who seem to be generally unreasonable in their expectations.

  18. #1093

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    In that JR article, the broker handling the listing mentioned there were several interested parties from out of state.

    Will be interesting to see how this all shakes out and if any one can offer enough to satisfy the current owners who seem to be generally unreasonable in their expectations.
    They seem to have a hard time coming to terms with what you were willing to pay for a property has no bearing on it's market price

  19. #1094

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    At only 26% occupancy (and dropping) I hope the owners are in a place where they have to take the best offer.

  20. #1095

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    Here are the plans for the little six-table patio along Park Avenue for Cafe 7:


  21. #1096

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    With P180 creeping near, I wonder how bad it'll affect Cafe 7, or any other place in that building, for that matter...

  22. #1097

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    Quote Originally Posted by DammitDan View Post
    With P180 creeping near, I wonder how bad it'll affect Cafe 7, or any other place in that building, for that matter...
    I think the P180 construction to the west of this is already done. I know the area north of this is under construction but everyone coming from the south should be good.

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    park avenue is not done at all, and it's scheduled to be done after all the Robinson stuff is done... it's going to be a mess...

  24. #1099

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Here are the plans for the little six-table patio along Park Avenue for Cafe 7:

    ...
    Told the wife about this as she goes there often, she basically said "so, nobody would want to eat outside anyway", and I kinda agree with her - high heat, high wind, really not that appealing to eat outside in OKC for most of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTravellers View Post
    Told the wife about this as she goes there often, she basically said "so, nobody would want to eat outside anyway", and I kinda agree with her - high heat, high wind, really not that appealing to eat outside in OKC for most of the year.
    I eat on the patio at every restaurant that has a patio...

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