OSU Most Desirable College in Oklahoma

[OKCisOK4me]

OKCisOK4me,
You must lead a sheltered life. I know lots of them and they're great fans, they hate OU and love their Cowboys and very few of them were fair weather fans. Show me the definition of fan that says they must have a relationship with whatever they are a fan of. I didn't attend OU or OSU, does that mean I can't be a fan of either team?
C. T.

CT, I haven't had quite as many years as you to develop relationships with people who are fans of OSU that didn't go there. ;-)


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[ou48A]

^^^pffft, WTF? Still reeling cause you haven't heard any results from the SI Scandal? Sounds like you have an inferiority complex, lol.


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Since you brought the topic up......I have no idea if its true or not but an osu person told me that the results of the osu investigation will be announced late this month or sometime next month and to expect violations to be announced. This person did not know how severe these violations would be? But with all the rumors circulating about turmoil and this being Gundys last year nothing should be that shocking?

[ou48A]

I, for one, am shocked - shocked! - that ou48a showed up to poop all over OSU and their fans in this thread.

Who knows but that's just how it is with OU fans. There's not one OSU fan I don't know that didn't attend OSU for at least a semester.

Emotionally immature fans like you 2 are really very easy to offend and take almost any criticism personally.
Its what causes poke fans to throw turkey legs and such all while making excuses for said behavior.
The criticism over this started long before I posted on this thread.

[PWitty]

I don't have a horse in this race, because I'm from KU which is on the map , but that seems pretty silly to take out a full page ad using a random internet article as the centerpiece. I'm sure OSU has much better things to brag about than that.

[OKCisOK4me]

Emotionally immature fans like you 2 are really very easy to offend and take almost any criticism personally.
Its what causes poke fans to throw turkey legs and such all while making excuses for said behavior.
The criticism over this started long before I posted on this thread.

Laughable you presume to know my thoughts about your situation...hahaha.


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[Urbanized]

I don't have a horse in this race, because I'm from KU which is on the map , but that seems pretty silly to take out a full page ad using a random internet article as the centerpiece. I'm sure OSU has much better things to brag about than that.

That was my point. Not an OSU dig at all. Just seems like a weak excuse for an ad. The have much better (and more substantial) distinctions to sell.

[onthestrip]

While I'll say I was a little surprised to see this ad. However, this isn't some buzzfeed crap, it legitimately measures who was applied to most. OSU has always protrayed themselves as a college for everyone, maybe they just wanted to show it's popularity.

[ctchandler]

OKCisOK4m3,
Point well taken.
C. T.

CT, I haven't had quite as many years as you to develop relationships with people who are fans of OSU that didn't go there. ;-)


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[OKCretro]

I believe that more people go to osu than ou in every county in the state except maybe 3.

So no surprise here that people from gotebo, Woodward, and Alva think osu is more desirable.

[Spartan]

A pissing match between OU and OSU is kind of like arguing between whether Minnesota State University, Mankato is better than University of Northern Iowa...in the grand scheme of things.

OSU is making a lot of progress and I would imagine in many fields an OSU degree is slightly more valuable than an OU degree.

[Andrew4OU]

Here's a more important statistic; however, OU probably won't take a full page out for having the highest graduation rate in the state. OU's latest data shows 66% grad rate after six years, while OSU shows 60%

https://www.ecollegefinder.org/highe...-rate-map.aspx

[Spartan]

I disagree, I think for land grant universities, it is essential to weed students out. These universities all have doors that stand a little too open, and there is no other "fair" way to really test students when a university is supposed to be "open to the people." The main state universities are all just degree factories in the end.

Having this argument between OU and OSU is silly because Oklahoma doesn't really have any "prestigious" universities, so there's little to act pretentious about.

[Pete]

OSU is making a lot of progress and I would imagine in many fields an OSU degree is slightly more valuable than an OU degree.

You don't need to imagine, there are all types of objective sources that rate academic programs. It's an easy thing to research, especially through US News which is the most respected of all the academic rankings. I was not able to find a single program where OSU ranked ahead of OU (apart from fields not offered in Norman). I found about 20 where OU was rated higher.

I get this isn't Harvard vs. Princeton but both schools are improving and if you want to compare, it's easy to do so.


Also, this ad is not only dubious it's wildly misleading.

The graphic represents the total number of applications yet the the ad actually claims two completely different things: 1) "More Oklahomans Choose OSU". This graphic has absolutely nothing to do with just in-state applications so why is it the title? (Don't know if it's true or not but the map certainly doesn't address that claim. And is this something to trumpet anyway? Why is it a point of pride to attract a lower percentage of out-of-state students??); and 2) "Rankings are based on the number of people who want to attend the university." That's absolutely not true. It's based only on the number of applications, so why not just say that? Lots of people apply completely independent of the wanting to attend. You apply because you *might* want to attend based on a number of things that happen between the time you have to submit an application and when you actually make a decision, not the least of which being getting into a better school and choosing them instead. Or simply learning more about the school through visits and other means and deciding against it. (This was the case for me after applying to UC Berkeley MBA school.) Or settling on a major a particular school doesn't offer, etc., etc.

Especially in today's competitive environment, most applicants apply to a bunch of schools. Applying to a school is not choosing or even desiring it.

[AP]

I think all of you OU fans have gotten your digs at us OSU grads. Your academic programs are ranked higher, your athletic programs are better, your endowment is bigger, and you'll always be big brother. Did I get that right or did I miss something? I'm sorry my degree isn't as valuable as yours. Can we move on to more important things like talking about OKC and not things like is my dick bigger than yours?

[zookeeper]

A pissing match between OU and OSU is kind of like arguing between whether Minnesota State University, Mankato is better than University of Northern Iowa...in the grand scheme of things.

OSU is making a lot of progress and I would imagine in many fields an OSU degree is slightly more valuable than an OU degree.

Very true, Spartan. Arguing over state universities seems about as petty a thing to argue over than anything. Bringing the whole athletic competition between universities to every discussion regarding the schools completely misses the point on why these institutions are there in the first place.

[Pete]

I think all of you OU fans have gotten your digs at us OSU grads. Your academic programs are ranked higher, your athletic programs are better, your endowment is bigger, and you'll always be big brother. Did I get that right or did I miss something? I'm sorry my degree isn't as valuable as yours. Can we move on to more important things like talking about OKC and not things like is my dick bigger than yours?

I apologize if my comments seemed like a slap at OSU grads. It's just that this graphic was silly to start then it's featured in a full-page ad by the school with some pretty misleading claims.

I'm glad to see OSU improving as the state needs better universities. And even though the OU v. OSU thing is often stupid, the competition between the two should make both better and that certainly seems to be happening.

[Zuplar]

Both universities are part of the same school system, so when it comes down too it they aren't that far apart.

[Dennis Heaton]

If only the Oklahoma City University School of Law had a football team?

[traxx]

OP spelled miserable wrong.

Mods, please correct title.

[jerrywall]

OP spelled miserable wrong.

Mods, please correct title.

Thanks for your valuable contribution to intelligent discourse.

[jerrywall]

Both universities are part of the same school system, so when it comes down too it they aren't that far apart.

This. I don't understand this obsession with comparing and fighting between the two schools. It's primarily sports motivated. I applied and was accepted into both Universities, and ended up choosing the one that I felt provided the better programs that I wanted to participate in. It's that simple.

What really gets me is the obsession that some of the folks from the bigger, older, more successful school seem to have with "little brother". You'd think those fans are the ones with the inferiority complex.

[Pete]

Both universities are part of the same school system, so when it comes down too it they aren't that far apart.

They are actually part of completely separate systems but both receive funding from the state (as do all public colleges in Oklahoma).

State funding as a percentage of total budget is shrinking... For OU, it's only about 18% now and falling all the time; would drop to just 15% under the proposed new state budget. They rely much more on tuition, housing and their endowment and all that is unique to each school.

[traxx]

Thanks for your valuable contribution to intelligent discourse.

Lighten up, Francis.

[Zuplar]

They are actually part of completely separate systems but both receive funding from the state (as do all public colleges in Oklahoma).

State funding as a percentage of total budget is shrinking... For OU, it's only about 18% now and falling all the time; would drop to just 15% under the proposed new state budget. They rely much more on tuition, housing and their endowment and all that is unique to each school.

I was referring to this mostly.

https://www.okhighered.org/state-sys...ew/part1.shtml

[adaniel]

I was referring to this mostly.

https://www.okhighered.org/state-sys...ew/part1.shtml

This looks like it just confirms which schools are considered public shools and therefore under the state system.

In terms of actual governance and control, OU is under the OU Board of Regents along with Cameron and Rogers State. OSU is controlled by the Oklahoma A&M Board of Regents along with Panhandle State, Langston, and NEO.