LA Clippers

[Garin]

They have him on tape making outrageously racist comments. He has not even tried to deny it is him speaking. Really not much for a court to evaluate.

The only issue is if these types of racist comments and attitudes are acceptable from the owner of an NBA team. A sport where the majority of the players are black and where the fanbase is very diverse.

He's certainly entitled to his opinions but he also has to accept the consequences, which have already started to come.

Owning a pro sports franchise is not a right; it's subject to abiding by league rules and decisions in addition to any civil or criminal laws.

He was taped without knowledge what did he say or do that would cause a civil suit

[zookeeper]

Yes, it clearly sounds like there's a history with Sterling. But did anybody read or see and hear Snoop Dogg's response? Fight racism with more racism?
Here's the link (warning: very graphic language) Instagram

[Achilleslastand]

Yes, it clearly sounds like there's a history with Sterling. But did anybody read or see and hear Snoop Dogg's response? Fight racism with more racism?
Here's the link (warning: very graphic language) Instagram

Snoop is just as bad if not worse....
Needs more ebonics.

[Rover]

I stick up for people to have their own opinions, like him or not I could give two shiz for the guy. But it has to be a two way street. People are being tried in the court of opinion ,before all the facts are presented. For crying out loud were talking about a bunch of minority guys that throw a ball through a hoop for a living, entertaining the masses , while their Masters ( owners) make the majority of the take.... Is is not modern day slavery?

We get it. You support bigotry. Yes, he has a right to think and say it. He doesn't have a right not to be subject to repercussions. But, with his money he will just accept it and die a rich and stupid person.

And, according to your take, anyone who works a job is a slave. Any misguided logic to justify racism/bigotry huh?

[jn1780]

I stick up for people to have their own opinions, like him or not I could give two shiz for the guy. But it has to be a two way street. People are being tried in the court of opinion ,before all the facts are presented. For crying out loud were talking about a bunch of minority guys that throw a ball through a hoop for a living, entertaining the masses , while their Masters ( owners) make the majority of the take.... Is is not modern day slavery?

If your going to put it that way, that would make 99% of the population slaves.

[Garin]

If your going to put it that way, that would make 99% of the population slaves.

If the glove fits......

[Garin]

We get it. You support bigotry. Yes, he has a right to think and say it. He doesn't have a right not to be subject to repercussions. But, with his money he will just accept it and die a rich and stupid person.

And, according to your take, anyone who works a job is a slave. Any misguided logic to justify racism/bigotry huh?

Oprah would get a free pass

[Stan Silliman]

He dates a different race, maybe he just doesn't want HER to flaunt her extra activities in front of the public eye. Just because you say he's a witch, doesn't mean you should burn him at the stake.... Have you people not learned anything from the past?

I don't usually agree with Garin but I somewhat agree with this.

Basically, what is going on is, even though Sterling lets his girlfriend screw other guys, he doesn't want it flaunted in his face.
Specifically Magic Johnson and Sean Kemp, two prominent black L.A. athletes, who she has taken to games.

He didn't want to come out and say Magic Johnson has HIV and Sean Kemp has 14 kids and addicted to crack so he used
the shorten term of "Not bringing any more blacks to his games."

It's one thing to bleed his money and bag him... it's quite another to say you prefer an HIV patient and a crackie over him
and post it on the internet, on instagram, for all his friends to chide him and make him even feel worse.

[Pete]

He was taped without knowledge what did he say or do that would cause a civil suit

This isn't about a civil suit... It's about 1) how others feel about his comments and 2) what the NBA chooses to do.


And Stan, he specifies blacks in his comments; that she shouldn't have photos with them on the Internet; that she shouldn't bring blacks to the games. It's not about her flaunting other men in his face; it's that she's seen associating with BLACK men.

How can that not be outrageously racist?


Now, you might not be bothered by those opinions but you have to understand why others would be, especially coming from an NBA team owner.

[Garin]

This isn't about a civil suit... It's about 1) how others feel about his comments and 2) what the NBA chooses to do.


And Stan, he specifically says specifies blacks in his comments; that she shouldn't have photos with them on the Internet; that she shouldn't bring blacks to the games. It's not about her flaunting other men in his face; it's that she's seen associating with BLACK men.

How can that not be outrageously racist?


Now, you might not be bothered by those opinions but you have to understand why others would be, especially coming from an NBA team owner.

Does he employ Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Indians??? He dates a black chic , is he really as racist as everyone makes him out to be? His head coach is a black man is he just a token for the masses or does Sterling think he was the best fit for the job? I hate to break the news to you guys but a lot of people think one thing in private , than they do in public... I mean is this what we've become , you'll look the other way to defend a rogue cop for murdering a man at the movies , but you're wanting to crucify an old man for something he said in a private conversation..... I know that none of you have ever done anything in private that you might be ashamed of if you knew someone was recording it. Each and every one of you!

[Pete]

It's long been a pattern with Sterling, not just this on incident.

Yes, it's a private conversation but it also demonstrates his true mind set. And for better or worse, it's now very, very public.

It's like the guy that gets drunk (Mel Gibson, Michael Richards, etc.) and makes racial slurs and then tries to blame alcohol. Booze and privacy don't manufacture attitudes, they just reveal them.

And if you listen to the longer version of the conversation, it's not just an off-hand comment that may have been taken out of context. He explains in detail over quite some time how he feels about blacks and why.

[Garin]

It's long been a pattern with Sterling, not just this on incident.

Yes, it's a private conversation but it also demonstrates his true mind set. And for better or worse, it's now very, very public.

It's like the guy that gets drunk (Mel Gibson, Michael Richards, etc.) and makes racial slurs and then tries to blame alcohol. Booze and privacy don't manufacture attitudes, they just reveal them.

And if you listen to the longer version of the conversation, it's not just an off-hand comment that may have been taken out of context. He explains in detail over quite some time how he feels about blacks and why.

I listened to the long one and well the people shall decide his fate. As they say, He has made his bed time to lay in it.

[Pete]

Yes, and there is the old adage: If you have to hide something, you probably shouldn't be doing it.

I.e., you know yourself it's wrong which is why you are hiding it in the first place.

[Pete]

BTW, I do understand the viewpoint that people -- especially in the media -- love to try and demonstrate their own moral superiority by pouncing on something like this.

In fact, there is no doubt that most have said things just as bad if not worse.

But when you are in a highly-visible position of power and an owner of a pro sports team comprised mainly of people of color, you have to know to be careful; and be aware of the grave consequences if you aren't.


Also, don't piss off your 20-something mistress when your 80 year-old wife is in the process of suing her for the millions you gave her.

[Laramie]

Donald Sterling's concerns has more to do with his girlfriend being seen with noted personalities of color. It's not the first time that Sterling has exhibited racial overtones. Some old wealthy men want a little chocolate in the bedroom; are they any different than those men who want a little cream in their coffee?

He showered his bronze goddess with money & gifts--can you blame his separated wife's reaction to all the publicity?

"Hell hath no fury, like a woman scorned." Donald happens to have two hooks in his mouth. One woman hooked him with a rod & reel; the other with an old fashioned cane pole.

"Oklahoma City looks oh-so pretty... ...as I get my kicks on Route 66." --Nat King Cole.

[Stan Silliman]

This isn't about a civil suit... It's about 1) how others feel about his comments and 2) what the NBA chooses to do.


And Stan, he specifies blacks in his comments; that she shouldn't have photos with them on the Internet; that she shouldn't bring blacks to the games. It's not about her flaunting other men in his face; it's that she's seen associating with BLACK men.



How can that not be outrageously racist?


Now, you might not be bothered by those opinions but you have to understand why others would be, especially coming from an NBA team owner.

Pete, this is just the way I see it.
The tape was about some specific people but he chose not to go there.
In the tape he mentions Magic Johnson. It is also known she came to games with Sean Kemp.

She may not sleep with those guys but it's possible, in Donald Sterling's mind, that she is.
So let's dig a little deeper. Donald Sterling says "I don't mind what you do, I don't mind if you sleep with them...
just don't take them to my games."

By taking pictures and publishing it on instagram, she is telling the world that she is friendly with some famous
athletes, who happen to be black. Does she have a sexual relationship with those two, one known to have HIV
and other known to have a crack habit and 14 kids? Maybe not, but you can be sure Donald Sterling's friends is
telling him that he's being played for a fool and a cuckold.

I see it as because of these two guys, Sterling is trying not to be too specific, so he says not to bring any "black"
guys. But I'm sure he means "athletes" of any color.

Now, do I think he is unworthy of being an NBA team owner? Of course. If nothing else, because he's stupid enough
to let a pretty model fill his head with rage and doubt. He has a history of being less than respectful to minorities but I
wouldn't call it racist. I'd call it being a greedy, SOB of a businessman, who may be classist and may have an aversion
to poor people.

[Snowman]

They have him on tape making outrageously racist comments. He has not even tried to deny it is him speaking. Really not much for a court to evaluate.

The only issue is if these types of racist comments and attitudes are acceptable from the owner of an NBA team. A sport where the majority of the players are black and where the fanbase is very diverse.

He's certainly entitled to his opinions but he also has to accept the consequences, which have already started to come.

Owning a pro sports franchise is not a right; it's subject to abiding by league rules and decisions in addition to any civil or criminal laws.

Not only is it already diverse, they have been working to expand their global brand, which means being attractive to an even more diverse audience. Maybe if it was the days before the internet and the team was still a perennial doormat it might be easier to sweep under the rug but they have a couple legitimate stars on the team and have the 3rd best record.

[soonerguru]

Pete, this is just the way I see it.
The tape was about some specific people but he chose not to go there.
In the tape he mentions Magic Johnson. It is also known she came to games with Sean Kemp.

She may not sleep with those guys but it's possible, in Donald Sterling's mind, that she is.
So let's dig a little deeper. Donald Sterling says "I don't mind what you do, I don't mind if you sleep with them...
just don't take them to my games."

By taking pictures and publishing it on instagram, she is telling the world that she is friendly with some famous
athletes, who happen to be black. Does she have a sexual relationship with those two, one known to have HIV
and other known to have a crack habit and 14 kids? Maybe not, but you can be sure Donald Sterling's friends is
telling him that he's being played for a fool and a cuckold.

I see it as because of these two guys, Sterling is trying not to be too specific, so he says not to bring any "black"
guys. But I'm sure he means "athletes" of any color.

Now, do I think he is unworthy of being an NBA team owner? Of course. If nothing else, because he's stupid enough
to let a pretty model fill his head with rage and doubt. He has a history of being less than respectful to minorities but I
wouldn't call it racist. I'd call it being a greedy, SOB of a businessman, who may be classist and may have an aversion
to poor people.

Have you listened to the tape? What more do you want? He said, "Don't bring black people to my games." and, "I don't want you posting pictures of minorities on Instagram."

It's not as complicated as you're making it out to be.

[Mel]

The guy is a jerk. The management world is full of them. I hope they will still play their hearts out. All that jerk does is sign the paychecks. When you are a player, you play for many reasons. Paycheck of course, your teammates, your family and your self esteem. Shuffle those priorities however you please. Don't cut your nose off to spite your face. I've done that and it doesn't pay off in the long run.

[Stan Silliman]

Have you listened to the tape? What more do you want? He said, "Don't bring black people to my games." and, "I don't want you posting pictures of minorities on Instagram."

It's not as complicated as you're making it out to be.

Two things I believe:
1) His girlfriend didn't give the whole tape to TMZ. She left out the first part.
2) He is substituting the word minorities because he doesn't want to name the athletes she's been coming to the games with.

On her published instagram pictures only two black people appear - Magic Johnson and Sean Kemp. One has HIV and the
other never heard of a condom. In his mind she'll be pregnant with Aides if she keeps hanging with these guys.

So when he says "be careful with your instagram" he may be saying "Be careful who you bed." This is an 80-year-guy who
knows he can't sexually satisfy her and she taped him because she knew he was going to dump her.

He is a jerkwad, no doubt.

[Mel]

[Urbanized]

I don't really have any comments on the scandal. Most of the details speak for themselves. I just selfishly hope it causes the Clippers to fold like a cheap suit in the playoffs, and wouldn't be too broken up if it brought enough turmoil to hasten lineup changes and a return to mediocrity. The West has too many good teams right now, and that lineup is one of the most talented. Screw them.

[Laramie]

Does he employ Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Indians??? He dates a black chic , is he really as racist as everyone makes him out to be? His head coach is a black man is he just a token for the masses or does Sterling think he was the best fit for the job? I hate to break the news to you guys but a lot of people think one thing in private , than they do in public... I mean is this what we've become , you'll look the other way to defend a rogue cop for murdering a man at the movies , but you're wanting to crucify an old man for something he said in a private conversation..... I know that none of you have ever done anything in private that you might be ashamed of if you knew someone was recording it. Each and every one of you!

Donald Sterling's behavior isn't to be trusted; whatever kind of false-face or façade he puts on is tailored for his audience. It's a 'backstabber' type action; like when the person you thought was a friend make some kind of off handed comment about you behind your back that they wouldn't say to your face. Play fiddle with one group; then serenade you with the violin.

My parents taught me to recognize your associates: Read through all the hype and don't act disappointed when the devil shows up at your door. True friends are going to be friends; they don't look for any favors in return. Some people of wealth, use that wealth as a vehicle to control others. It boils down to your own work ethics.

Are we overacting to the Donald Sterling debacle? The NBA has its work cut out for them. Sterling is what he is... Those who have been around him should know by now what he's all about.

"Oklahoma City looks oh-so pretty... ...as I get my kicks on Route 66." --Nat King Cole.

[CCOKC]

The Kemp in the audio is Matt not Sean. Two very different people.

[hoya]

Her face is kinda funny looking.

We've seen these strange California relationships before especially as husband & wife bring in house guests to add 'so called' spice to their lives--it's not the norm for a happy marriage. Do we remember O.J. Simpson, Nicole Brown Simpson, Ronald Lyle Goldman & Kato Kaelin (house guest)?

I wanna be Kato Kaelin when I grow up. I wanna just live at a rich person's house, and do no work of my own.