Prostitution In OKC

[kelroy55]

Edit: By the way, I don't appreciate the vaguely threatening/stalkerish "no one is anonymous on the internet" Facebook message you sent me. I've never made my identity here secret.

He kind of did the same thing to me when he posted my name on here a while back. Must be some kind of power trip. *shrug*

[BBatesokc]

By the way, I don't appreciate the vaguely threatening/stalkerish "no one is anonymous on the internet" Facebook message you sent me.

Then you should get over it just fine.

I don't appreciate public defenders who dismiss human traffickers actions because "they were just whoring out their [16 year old] girlfriend.

Where did I say he didn't plea or that he lied?

You made it sound like he only pled to get a deal - as if the plea wasn't genuine.

You present a false dichotomy. It is not either a) or b). His statement can be true and yet still be deserving of what he got.

So, in your mind an adult can freely admit to prostituting a minor (thus making it human trafficking, therefore making them a human trafficker) and in your mind probation and no record is perfectly acceptable and deserving? Because, despite what you thick you know about the defendant, those are the facts.

Yes I do know about it, but I'm not going to talk about people's private lives on a public forum.

Private lives? The drama behind the scenes is going on now at the DA's office. Obviously you don't know.

[Prunepicker]

Edit: By the way, I don't appreciate the vaguely threatening/stalkerish "no
one is anonymous on the internet" Facebook message you sent me. I've
never made my identity here secret.

As an aside, it's against the OKC Talk policy to disclose any information
about any member of the forum without permission from that person or
unless s/he has divulged personal information on OKC Talk.

[hoya]

He kind of did the same thing to me when he posted my name on here a while back. Must be some kind of power trip. *shrug*

I think we've gotten a good look at the type of person Mr. Bates is now.

As an aside, it's against the OKC Talk policy to disclose any information
about any member of the forum without permission from that person or
unless s/he has divulged personal information on OKC Talk.

For some reason, I don't think the privacy of other people has ever been a concern of Mr. Bates. Perhaps Pete will rein this in.

[hoya]

Then you should get over it just fine.

I don't appreciate public defenders who dismiss human traffickers actions because "they were just whoring out their [16 year old] girlfriend.

I'm not losing any sleep over it, if that's what you mean. But I see how quick you are to go after someone personally when they don't kowtow to your agenda. I disagree with you and you feel compelled to confront me on Facebook.

You made it sound like he only pled to get a deal - as if the plea wasn't genuine.

Generally yes, people plea to get deals. If you don't have a deal, you go to trial. This is not rocket science.

So, in your mind an adult can freely admit to prostituting a minor (thus making it human trafficking, therefore making them a human trafficker) and in your mind probation and no record is perfectly acceptable and deserving? Because, despite what you thick you know about the defendant, those are the facts.

It depends entirely upon the facts of the case.

If you, a 50-something year old man, kidnap a 12 year old boy, take him halfway across the state, and prostitute him out, then no, I don't think you should get probation. On the other hand, if you are still basically a kid yourself, and your old-enough-to-legally-have-sex-with girlfriend asks you to help set up her whoring webpage, and then when you are caught you go to prison for 9 months where you are raped and then hospitalized in an attack by other inmates, but you do everything possible to complete the program and turn your life around, then yes, I think a deferred sentence is appropriate.

Our human trafficking statute has some holes in it. It's poorly written and overbroad. Too many things are termed "human trafficking" that shouldn't be. I believe this scenario is one of them.

Private lives? The drama behind the scenes is going on now at the DA's office. Obviously you don't know.

I know what is going on. But I know and respect the people you are talking about and I'm not going to badmouth anyone for your amusement.



If there's someone in the DA's office who wants to talk to me, let them talk to me and not hide behind private messages.

[Prunepicker]

I'd like to know why some believe "the straw man gambit" is assumed to be
a worthy defense. Can anyone explain this to me?

[Pete]

I had not seen these exchanges until this morning.

This seems to have become entirely too personal and therefore I am closing this thread.