Catch 22

[Prunepicker]

Are there any admirers of this book and movie?

I'd like to discuss the theme and variations of the book and movie.

Please, if you haven't read the book AND seen the movie PLEASE don't
try to engage with the thread. I want to have an honest dialog and not
the usual "Internet search" crap that's so much the norm of the day.

Let's discuss this intelligently and not Internetly.

Prunie.

[catch22]

I wrote the book. I directed the movie. My real name and identity can be found by decoding a matrix of words and phrases common through the odd-numbered pages in the book.

Thanks for reading and watching.

[Prunepicker]

I'm concerned with the bureaucratic bull#### that is the gist of the book. What
do you appreciate or otherwise the reasoning of the "military". Are you
satisfied with the business as usual of the military complex? I'm not. The
first chapter is quite thrilling but ends up, at least in my opinion, quite lack
luster.

Who do believe is the first casualty of the book? The movie? Anyone?

[Prunepicker]

I wrote the book. I directed the movie. My real name and identity can be
found by decoding a matrix of words and phrases common through the
odd-numbered pages in the book.

Thanks for reading and watching.

Too funny Joseph and Robert. Do you have anything to say that's relevant to
the book? If not, how about the movie?

Personally I don't believe you do.

[catch22]

I didn't write the book. Sorry.

I did see a copy laying in my room, when I stayed with a couple in NYC last fall. But was too busy exploring the city, to read. It did catch my eye, because of the similarity of it's title and my username.

[Prunepicker]

Is/was Yossarian crazy? Why? Why not? I truly want to engage in an
intelligent dialog with the members of OKC Talk.

[RadicalModerate]

I read the book--and saw the movie--but it's been so long ago that I can't remember any of the details. However, I do remember the primary point which is how impossible it is to deal with some of the insane, inane and idiotic rules and policies that are part of the matrix of our individual existence. Ergo: the often used phrase, "It's a Catch 22". The funny thing here is that a lot of people who use the phrase have never read the book that originated it. It's like the use of the term, "Big Brother". How many people use that phrase who never actually read "1984"? How can it be used properly if one doesn't fully comprehend the context from which it sprang? (Is sprang a real word?)

[kelroy55]

Is/was Yossarian crazy? Why? Why not? I truly want to engage in an
intelligent dialog with the members of OKC Talk.

Wanting to and being capable of are two different things.

[RadicalModerate]

I didn't write the book. Sorry.

I did see a copy laying in my room, when I stayed with a couple in NYC last fall. But was too busy exploring the city, to read. It did catch my eye, because of the similarity of it's title and my username.

It's possible that there is a "Classics Illustrated" . . . "Cliff's Notes" . . . or "Catch 22 for Dummies" available in the modern market to spare one the agony of reading a book with a whole lot of pages and no pictures. If there isn't, one might never experience the sufferings of Yosarrian and glean the gems of contradiction between the covers; an anomaly that in and of itself is a type of "Catch 22" situation. (PLEASE: don't take any of that verbiage as any sort of personal insult because it was NOT intended that way. It's only a springboard to discussion, to cite the cliché.)

[Prunepicker]

Is/was Yossarian crazy? Why? Why not? I truly want to engage in an
intelligent dialog with the members of OKC Talk.

Sprang is the euphenymbolicism of sprung.

[RadicalModerate]

Sprang is the euphenymbolicism of sprung.

I sit validated. If not corrected. =)
(gee . . . that's sort of Catch 22ish in and of itself . . . ain't it? =)

I suppose "they" could say that "sprang" is what starts on March 21 in certain parts of . . . Texas?

Say! Wouldn't it be great if there was, like, a "Catch 22 App"?
(oh . . . wait . . . there was a joke about that on The Office involving GPS's and ponds)

[CaptDave]

I read the book--and saw the movie--but it's been so long ago that I can't remember any of the details. However, I do remember the primary point which is how impossible it is to deal with some of the insane, inane and idiotic rules and policies that are part of the matrix of our individual existence. Ergo: the often used phrase, "It's a Catch 22". The funny thing here is that a lot of people who use the phrase have never read the book that originated it. It's like the use of the term, "Big Brother". How many people use that phrase who never actually read "1984"? How can it be used properly if one doesn't fully comprehend the context from which it sprang? (Is sprang a real word?)

That is a feather in your cap - maybe even two since you read AND watched. But is it a black eye you can't remember any details?

[RadicalModerate]

That is a feather in your cap - maybe even two since you read AND watched. But is it a black eye you can't remember any details?

Where I went to school they didn't allow or permit corporal punishment.
(nothing was said about alternative ranks)

"Blimey! There's a friggin' feather in me cap . . . I think I shall name it Macaroni!
And irritate the American Colonialists . . . at the same time!"
(old british meme regarding immediate reality =)

Sorry,Gov/Cap'n . . . I missed the ? at the conclusion of your statement.
We definitely need to shift to Hispanic punctuation.
It 'elps t' clarify typed communication.

(p.s.: just goes to prove that the Catch 22 App is overdue....well, don't it? =)

[CaptDave]

It's only macaroni if you overdo it. Looks like you are +1 in the Feather in Cap v. Black Eye ledger. Good for you!

[Prunepicker]

What is anyone's take on changing of the fluids in the person that's completely
wrapped in tape. The fluids flow from one bottle to the next then they are
switched.

[Prunepicker]

I read the book--and saw the movie--but it's been so long ago that I can't
remember any of the details. However, I do remember the primary point which
is how impossible it is to deal with some of the insane, inane and idiotic rules
and policies that are part of the matrix of our individual existence. Ergo: the
often used phrase, "It's a Catch 22". The funny thing here is that a lot of
people who use the phrase have never read the book that originated it. It's
like the use of the term, "Big Brother". How many people use that phrase
who never actually read "1984"? How can it be used properly if one doesn't
fully comprehend the context from which it sprang? (Is sprang a real word?)

You're right. The phrases "Catch 22" and "Big Brother" must be taken in
context in order to appreciate their significance. I haven't checked but I'm
sure the phrase "behind the 8 ball" has similar significance.

At any rate...

I've read 1984 more than any other book, you can include Animal Farm in
the mix, too. It's a remarkable novel. I'm thinking I watched a cartoon
version of Animal Farm in grade school. Animal Farm is a fantastic novel.

I saw a small portion of the movie. I'm thinking Richard Burton was in it.
I've also read and watched Catch 22. I read the book after I saw the movie.
Buck Henry did a good job of keeping the storyline intact.

Most importantly, if Paula Prentiss had met me we'd be married happily
ever after.

[Mel]

I saw catch 22 at the former theatre at Shepard Mall. I have also read the book. If you haven't run into a catch 22 in your career or life you will. You can't get a certain job due to lack of experience, you can't get any experience unless someone hires you for that job.

[Dubya61]

I sit validated. If not corrected. =)
(gee . . . that's sort of Catch 22ish in and of itself . . . ain't it? =)

I suppose "they" could say that "sprang" is what starts on March 21 in certain parts of . . . Texas?

Say! Wouldn't it be great if there was, like, a "Catch 22 App"?
(oh . . . wait . . . there was a joke about that on The Office involving GPS's and ponds)

My mother-in-law will, no doubt, eat Braakfast on the first day of Sprang.

[RadicalModerate]

My mother-in-law will, no doubt, eat Braakfast on the first day of Sprang.

I trust that she will include "Aggs" . . . =)

[RadicalModerate]

It's only macaroni if you overdo it. Looks like you are +1 in the Feather in Cap v. Black Eye ledger. Good for you!

You are right. I was wrong.
(please forgive me. do overs?)

[RadicalModerate]

Most importantly, if Paula Prentiss had met me we'd be married happily
ever after.

Whew . . . For just a moment there I misread Prentiss as Poundstone.

[kelroy55]

I haven't read the book or watched the movie but I did stay at a Holiday Inn.

[Prunepicker]

I believe one of the most creepy scenes in cinematography is after Aardvark
rapes and kills Michaela (sp).

That scene creeps me out.

Especially after Yosarian gets arrested.

[Prunepicker]

Whew . . . For just a moment there I misread Prentiss as Poundstone.

Huh? Is there an actor/actress named Poundstone?

At any rate, if Paula Prentiss has met me she'd have married me. I'd have
married her voice.