SoSA Heights

[Pete]

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|address= 802 NW 8th
|status=complete August 2015
|owner= WB Holidings LLC
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|other= 6 1 bedroom units and 2 2 bedroom units
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Information & Latest News

3/25/14: Owner indicates plans for new multi-family building due west of building under renovation
2/25/14: Demolition application for old garage behind main building and small house immediately west.
2/15/13: Building permit
12/7/12: Sold to WB Holdings LLC for $250,000
Links

SoSA District projects
County Assessor Record
Gallery

[Spartan]

Nice find. A lot of these small 9-unit rehabs won't have articles or social media accounts..

Did they apply for a permit that was missed or are they just gutting he interior for now?

[Pete]

Both their design and building applications were submitted yesterday, the same day Will came across the construction.

I really need to map out all the small projects in this area, as there are a bunch of single-family homes and smaller renovations.

[metro]

Thanks! I've been meaning to post this for a couple months now. There are a bunch of SoSA projects underway that are currently not listed on OKC Talk. I'll try to post an update w/ pics soon. Also the 1st pic up on the gallery above is a different property, recently had new siding and is the SW corner of NW 7th and Shartel. The property in reference is SW corner of NW 8th and Shartel.

[Pete]

Just learned that once this project is finished and leases, the group plans to demolish the small home directly west and build a new multi-family structure.

[dwellsokc]

Sad. It appears the owners are transforming a low-rent apartment into a low-rent apartment. They didn't attempt to improve the floor plans, or take advantage of the building's location. This building had tremendous potential. Too bad they didn't employ some creativity...

[dwellsokc]

(By the way, this post should be in SoSA, not Midtown...)

[warreng88]

Sad. It appears the owners are transforming a low-rent apartment into a low-rent apartment. They didn't attempt to improve the floor plans, or take advantage of the building's location. This building had tremendous potential. Too bad they didn't employ some creativity...

Why do you say that? They are fixing up a building built in 1910 that is at a pretty important intersection (on Shartel) and making it more attractive and rentable. What do you think they should have done? Made it two giant modern apartments? I think this will make the neighborhood more attractive because they will not just have $500-$750,000 homes but $800-$1,000/month apartments for rent as well.

[AP]

Why do you say that? They are fixing up a building built in 1910 that is at a pretty important intersection (on Shartel) and making it more attractive and rentable. What do you think they should have done? Made it two giant modern apartments? I think this will make the neighborhood more attractive because they will not just have $500-$750,000 homes but $800-$1,000/month apartments for rent as well.

I agree. Mixed-use and income neighborhoods are what makes places better. If you people don't like it here, they can move north of 13th I guess.

[warreng88]

I agree. Mixed-use and income neighborhoods are what makes places better. If you people don't like it here, they can move north of 13th I guess.

I think this area will gradually move to a less dense version of Deep Deuce with multiple owner occupied single family homes and some for rent housing as well. What do we consider SOSA by the way? 6th to 10th and Classen to Walker? I feel liks SOSA is mostly the 10th to 6th and Classen to Shartel, but wouldn't that be more of a SAWOSA (South and West of Saint Anthony's)?

[AP]

I think this area will gradually move to a less dense version of Deep Deuce with multiple owner occupied single family homes and some for rent housing as well. What do we consider SOSA by the way? 6th to 10th and Classen to Walker? I feel liks SOSA is mostly the 10th to 6th and Classen to Shartel, but wouldn't that be more of a SAWOSA (South and West of Saint Anthony's)?

Not sure. Probably would be a better question asked in the SOSA thread. I like the 10th to 6th and Classen to Shartel, but would some of it more east.

[Pete]

[dwellsokc]

I like SaWoSoSA... by the way, why isn't this thread part of the SoSA header?

[Pete]

They have applied to demolish the old garage to the south and create parking, and to demolish the old home to the west for a future multi-family building:

[Spartan]

Are there any photos of the bldgs to be demolished?

[Pete]

[Urbanized]

Not that it will be a huge loss when demolished, but I wish there were a way to allow the detached garage to be torn down ONLY after construction began on the new multi family. Obviously the parking is intended to serve both, but it is unnecessary if the multi family is not built.

[Urbanized]

By the way, it would be interesting to see if the could get a taker on a "free if you move it" offer on that nice little Craftsman bungalow. Obviously it's in sortof tough shape at the moment, but it would be easy to restore and would make perfect turnkey infill in a place like Paseo or Jeff Park.

[Plutonic Panda]

so no landscaping at all in the parking lot? That is kind blah....

[Spartan]

By the way, it would be interesting to see if the could get a taker on a "free if you move it" offer on that nice little Craftsman bungalow. Obviously it's in sortof tough shape at the moment, but it would be easy to restore and would make perfect turnkey infill in a place like Paseo or Jeff Park.

Would that mitigate any liability issues? Not that moving a house isn't doable with $10,000 or so but usually there's a complex agreement inked if it's being moved out of the way of development.

[mkjeeves]

I'd think moving that old of a home under EPA residential lead paint regulations would be a complete nightmare, if even possible. Disturbing more than 6 square feet of lead painted surface in a renovation of a residential building requires full containment, IIRC.

http://www2.epa.gov/lead/renovation-...inting-program

[Urbanized]

And yet somehow it still happens occasionally. What a wacky world we live in.

[mkjeeves]

And yet somehow it still happens occasionally. What a wacky world we live in.

I'd think moving that old of a home under EPA residential lead paint regulations would be a complete nightmare, if even possible. Disturbing more than 6 square feet of lead painted surface in a renovation of a residential building requires full containment, IIRC.

Renovation, Repair and Painting Program | Lead | US EPA

Probably not often, if it all. Moved, yes.

[mkjeeves]

People ignore laws all the time but there's a key fact in that story:

The Harris family owns a house moving company

The law regulates contractors. Not many people own a house moving company or are equipped to move a house, DIY. You can poison yourself remodeling your own home without running afoul of the EPA regs. Not sure if you could escape child endangerment if you poison your kids or other liabilities if you manage to poison your neighborhood too though, depending.

[Urbanized]

OMG. You are right. Let's just burn it to the ground.

Seriously, do you think I was suggesting Joe Bob and Cousin Earl move it with their pickups? No. YOU HIRE A HOUSE MOVING COMPANY. I suppose if A HOUSE MOVING COMPANY EXISTS IN THE FIRST PLACE, THERE IS A MARKET TO MOVE HOUSES. So, I guess, maybe it DOES HAPPEN. At least occasionally.

Not that it matters. Forget I suggested it. Jesus Christ.