Lumberyard

[OUGrad05]

Forgive my ignorance, but what are you referring to?

The various complaints and jabs at mid rise wood framed construction. That is pretty normal even it cities with really good downtowns like Denver.

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[Spartan]

Where there is smoke can also be mirrors, though.

And also this isn't a mid-rise, as I's say this can pretty safely be classified as a high-rise. Now idk if that distinction makes a difference, or if the LLC name was meant to poke fun at our "world class" developments, or what. It just sticks out in my head.

[Mississippi Blues]

The various complaints and jabs at mid rise wood framed construction. That is pretty normal even it cities with really good downtowns like Denver.

I thought that's what you meant, but hadn't noticed any comments regarding wood framed construction in this thread. Sorry if I missed it; just wanted to be sure I understood you.

[bchris02]

The various complaints and jabs at mid rise wood framed construction. That is pretty normal even it cities with really good downtowns like Denver.

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Denver isn't in tornado alley.

[Mississippi Blues]

Where there is smoke can also be mirrors, though.

And also this isn't a mid-rise, as I's say this can pretty safely be classified as a high-rise. Now idk if that distinction makes a difference, or if the LLC name was meant to poke fun at our "world class" developments, or what. It just sticks out in my head.

I'm no rule maker, but I would classify this as a high-rise as well.

[OKVision4U]

Where there is smoke, there is fire.

-A company called OKC midrise apartments LLC pops up a year ago
-This same company is under contract negotiations to purchase this parcel of land
-A rendering shows up from a 100% credible architectural company with confirmed ties to the aforementioned OKC midrise company for this EXACT parcel of land.

They forgot to inform Steve Lackmeyer, so now none of it is true and OKCtalk is full of a bunch of nonsense rumors. Give me a break.

When a group "offers", this IS an action item w/ so many possibilities. This is NOT just an exercise. Outside the state of Oklahoma, things move quickly. There are two things needed for this to happen, 100% funding & the willingness to see it through.

[Just the facts]

Steve mentioned the I-44 building in regards to what may or may not happen at the lumber yard. For those not around back then this is what he was referring to.

http://www.okctalk.com/general-civic...oaday-ext.html

[jccouger]

I don't think these renderings will ever be built exactly to the tee. More than likely its just to garner interest from a lot of different parties. Financing, construction bids, and the final end users.

But there is obviously something going on with this land, and its starting to unveil itself one piece at a time and quickly.

[Pete]

One good thing about downtown property prices starting to go up dramatically: If a property is purchased for millions 1) it's unlikely someone will just sit on it; and 2) when it is developed, density is required to justify the investment.

[Spartan]

Also notice a trend with all of the sites formerly under consideration for the CC...

[jccouger]

nm

[OKVision4U]

Steve mentioned the I-44 building in regards to what may or may not happen at the lumber yard. For those not around back then this is what he was referring to.

http://www.okctalk.com/general-civic...oaday-ext.html

jtf, thanks.

[Pete]

^

That Broadway / I-44 rendering was posted in 2009, by the way.

[OKVision4U]

One good thing about downtown property prices starting to go up dramatically: If a property is purchased for millions 1) it's unlikely someone will just sit on it; and 2) when it is developed, density is required to justify the investment.

Pete, and it gets to a point where only those who have "deep pockets" get to play. ...thus, no sticker shock on a 43 story building.

[BDP]

Where there is smoke can also be mirrors, though.

And also this isn't a mid-rise, as I's say this can pretty safely be classified as a high-rise. Now idk if that distinction makes a difference, or if the LLC name was meant to poke fun at our "world class" developments, or what. It just sticks out in my head.

There's also two mid rise buildings in the conceptual renderings. Maybe the high rise element was added after the LLC was formed and named. I imagine it's also the more tentative element of the plans, but I'm just guessing.

What's interesting is, based on the specs, 60 of the units would be in those mid rise buildings. They look to be about 15 stories, which would mean about 2 unites per floor. Feel free to check my math there, but it seems like those would be some pretty fat units.

Also 6000 square feet seems like a low number for the retail space. There's a lot of boulevard frontage that could probably double that amount, unless they are thinking of having pretty good sized lobbies. Of course, this is all from looking at a drawing, so I could easily be way off.

[bchris02]

6,000 sq feet of retail space isn't much at all.

[BoulderSooner]

There's also two mid rise buildings in the conceptual renderings. Maybe the high rise element was added after the LLC was formed and named. I imagine it's also the more tentative element of the plans, but I'm just guessing.

What's interesting is, based on the specs, 60 of the units would be in those mid rise buildings. They look to be about 15 stories, which would mean about 2 unites per floor. Feel free to check my math there, but it seems like those would be some pretty fat units.

Also 6000 square feet seems like a low number for the retail space. There's a lot of boulevard frontage that could probably double that amount, unless they are thinking of having pretty good sized lobbies. Of course, this is all from looking at a drawing, so I could easily be way off.

Many more than 60 units would be in the midrises. 60 units would be non tower. Ie not in any of the 3 towers. Or out another way in the podium buildings

[BDP]

Many more than 60 units would be in the midrises. 60 units would be non tower. Ie not in any of the 3 towers. Or out another way in the podium buildings

Possibly, but it says "43 Story Tower" and 516 "Tower Units". It would weird to be referencing the mid rises as towers, imo. Not that any of it is more than ideas at this point. I've certainly been in some condo buildings like that that had two units a floor (and even one on some floors). It would certainly be cool to see that in OKC.

[Just the facts]

6,000 sq feet of retail space isn't much at all.

I doubt the retail would face the boulevard anyhow because through this area there won't be much of it at grade which will impact any chance of walkability along the boulevard. It crosses the canal and then has to go under the railroad tracks and EKG. I think the retail would be on the street between the towers.

[Plutonic Panda]

I just looked, and it has been changed to Oklahoma. A couple of days ago it said Canada, which means someone actively changed the page recently.

Great news!

[PhiAlpha]

Denver isn't in tornado alley.

...yes it is, it's on the fringe. They have tornados there.


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[Anonymous.]

Great news!

Actually depending on how you search, one page still says Canada, and one Oklahoma.

Canada - Bricktown - Humphreys & Partners Architects. L.P. - Humphreys & Partners Architects. L.P.
OKC - Bricktown - Humphreys & Partners Architects. L.P. - Humphreys & Partners Architects. L.P.

[Plutonic Panda]

Actually depending on how you search, one page still says Canada, and one Oklahoma.

Canada - Bricktown - Humphreys & Partners Architects. L.P. - Humphreys & Partners Architects. L.P.
OKC - Bricktown - Humphreys & Partners Architects. L.P. - Humphreys & Partners Architects. L.P.

Oh, I thought they updated that one to. :/

[Bellaboo]

Agree. Too often in this city's history, the bare minimum is all that has been proposed and it gets scaled down to absolute crap. When it comes to developments like this the rule is almost always over-promise, under-deliver. With that in mind, propose something that blows people away and then the scaled back version will still be a great development.

In 1932, OKC had the 2 tallest skyscrapers west of the Mississippi.....

[UnFrSaKn]

I thought First National was the fourth tallest building west of the Mississippi when it was built.