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[Plutonic Panda]

I said basically the same thing in post #56...but whatevs, lol.

yeah, I know my bad... there has been a couple things repeated in this thread

[warreng88]

My perception of this is that the two satellite buildings would contain a mix of office and residential perhaps? That could explain the 60 units. Maybe there would only be residences on the upper floors.

There are two pools, one on the site of the tall tower and one on the site to the east. I would think there would be residences or perhaps a hotel in one of the smaller towers in order for the renderings to have a pool there. Of course one of the pools is in between the two smaller towers so maybe residences in both (upper floors) and offices (lower floors). I would love to see condos on the top of both with a hotel on the lower floors of one and offices on the lower floors of the other.

[BoulderSooner]

I would bet that all 3 towers will be residential to the count of 516 units. 60 additional unit would be built into the podium structure. Ie not tower units.

[soonerguru]

I would bet that all 3 towers will be residential to the count of 516 units. 60 additional unit would be built into the podium structure. Ie not tower units.

This seems right.

[OKCisOK4me]

yeah, I know my bad... there has been a couple things repeated in this thread

Actually, I was referring to what bchris said ;-)

[warreng88]

I would bet that all 3 towers will be residential to the count of 516 units. 60 additional unit would be built into the podium structure. Ie not tower units.

I would think the podium structure would be mostly a parking garage with some amenities down there.

[bchris02]

A lot of people like the Co-op where it's at and whether you like it or not, it's an integral part of OKC's downtown history. Some take offense to the idea that it should go away, but as downtown becomes a more attractive place to invest and land values increase its inevitable.

[Plutonic Panda]

Actually, I was referring to what bchris said ;-)

ah, gotcha

[Plutonic Panda]

A lot of people like the Co-op where it's at and whether you like it or not, it's an integral part of OKC's downtown history. Some take offense to the idea that it should go away, but as downtown becomes a more attractive place to invest and land values increase its inevitable.

At this point, with all the vacant land downtown, we need to encourage more density, so the COOP really shouldn't be a primary concern getting it developed right now. It is currently being occupied and contributing jobs and money, so I say lets develop efficiently and not spread out all over the place. Once land starts becoming scarce, then we jump on things like this.

[catch22]

I don't think the construction of this would necessarily force the sale of the Co Op. In Chicago, there are plenty of brand new towers that are next to some horrific brownfield sites. People pay for location. This has a great location.

[Just the facts]

At this point, with all the vacant land downtown, we need to encourage more density, so the COOP really shouldn't be a primary concern getting it developed right now. It is currently being occupied and contributing jobs and money, so I say lets develop efficiently and not spread out all over the place. Once land starts becoming scarce, then we jump on things like this.

I know downtown still has a absence of structures but 'available land' isn't a numerous as it appears. Nearly every vacant lot is in some stage of development, even if it is just land assembly at this point. 5 years from now we are going to be sitting around wondering what happened to all the grass.

[Plutonic Panda]

I know downtown still has a absence of structures but 'available land' isn't a numerous as it appears. Nearly every vacant lot is in some stage of development, even if it is just land assembly at this point. 5 years from now we are going to be sitting around wondering what happened to all the grass.

I agree. As much as I like this tower and want downtown to become larger, I just hope we don't end up with a sprawled out skyline. I like tall dense skylines.

[catch22]

The 360 Condo tower in Austin is 472 feet (not including the spire) and is 44 floors. I imagine this would be a similar height.

[Just the facts]

I agree. As much as I like this tower and want downtown to become larger, I just hope we don't end up with a sprawled out skyline. I like tall dense skylines.

I prefer my towers dense as well. Interesting to note is that these 3 towers use the Vancouver model as their base design - tall narrow towers placed on block size podiums wrapped with residential and retail. This creates great street-level interaction and street wall, but allows ample sunlight to reach the ground.

http://places.designobserver.com/med...nism:__647.pdf

[bchris02]

I prefer dense skylines as well, but I would take a sprawled out skyline over no development at all. Atlanta's downtown is kind of sprawled out and I really like its feel.

[Plutonic Panda]

The 360 Condo tower in Austin is 472 feet (not including the spire) and is 44 floors. I imagine this would be a similar height.

Yeah, if I recall right, residential has lower ceiling height than commercial, I could be wrong on that though.

[Plutonic Panda]

I prefer dense skylines as well, but I would take a sprawled out skyline over no development at all. Atlanta's downtown is kind of sprawled out and I really like its feel.

Yeah I kind of agree with you as well. I would take a sprawled out skyline as long as it doesn't get too bad.

[Plutonic Panda]

I prefer my towers dense as well. Interesting to note is that these 3 towers use the Vancouver model as their base design - tall narrow towers placed on block size podiums wrapped with residential and retail. This creates great street-level interaction and street wall, but allows ample sunlight to reach the ground.

http://places.designobserver.com/med...nism:__647.pdf

nice! Vancouver is such an awesome city, I really hope to visit soon.

[catch22]

Yeah, if I recall right, residential has lower ceiling height than commercial, I could be wrong on that though.

Correct.

[metro]

Come on down, just let me know if you need any advice around the area.

Can I take you up on that offer too? I am going to try and do the same this summer.

[heyerdahl]

Remember the crappy rendering they made to market this property? I wonder if this is just an upgraded marketing piece to try to sell the land.

[Dustin]

Ohh lawd jezzus please let this happen!

[Just the facts]

Remember the crappy rendering they made to market this property? I wonder if this is just an upgraded marketing piece to try to sell the land.

That was for the Co-op site. Some times I have nightmares that include that rendering.

[metro]

I agree. As much as I like this tower and want downtown to become larger, I just hope we don't end up with a sprawled out skyline. I like tall dense skylines.

Oh well in that case, maybe they'll change their plans and site location for you. I kid, I kid.

[catch22]

Remember the crappy rendering they made to market this property? I wonder if this is just an upgraded marketing piece to try to sell the land.

As pointed out, this is a separate property and ownership.

These are also very professional and detailed renderings by a high quality architectural firm. It wasn't cheap to produce these, I'm sure. There has to be some basis of reality behind this...