Air Dep-oh Road
Air Deep-oh Road
I didn't read through the entire thread, but did anyone mention that the common pronunciation of Boston's basketball team is incorrect? We may call them "SELL-ticks" over here, but over there it's "KELL-ticks."
You say "EE-thur," I say "AYE-thur..."
The team is officially 'SEL-tick', both are accepted, in fact 'SEL-tick' has been used longer in english than 'KEL-tick'
The initial consonant of the English words Celt and Celtic can be realised either as /k/ or /s/ (that is, either hard or soft ⟨c⟩), both variants being recognised as "correct" in prescriptive usage by modern dictionaries.[17]
The English word originates in the 17th century, taken from the Celtę of classical Latin. Until the mid 19th century, the sole pronunciation in English was /selt/ in keeping of the treatment of the letter ⟨c⟩ inherited by Middle English from Old French and Late Latin.
Beginning in the mid-19th century, Celtic revivalist and nationalist publications advocated imitating the pronunciation of classical Latin in the time of Julius Caesar, when Latin Celtę was pronounced /keltai/.
An early example of this is a short article in a November 1857 issue of The Celt, a publication of the Irish Celtic Union.
"Of all the nations that have hitherto lived on the face of the earth, the English have the worst mode of pronouncing learned languages. This is admitted by the whole human race [...] This poor meagre sordid language resembles nothing so much as the hissing of serpents or geese. [...] The distinction which English writers are too stupid to notice, but which the Irish Grammarians are perpetually talking of, the distinction between broad and narrow vowels—governs the English language. [...] If we follow the unwritten law of the English we shall pronounce (Celt) Selt but Cęsar would pronounce it, Kaylt. Thus the reader may take which pronunciation he pleases. He may follow the rule of the Latin or the rule of the English language, and in either case be right."[18]
A guide to English pronunciation for Welsh speakers published in 1861 gives the alternative pronunciations "sel“tik, kel“tik" for the adjective Celtic.[19]
The pronunciation with /s/ remained standard throughout the 19th to early 20th century, but the variant with /k/ seems to have gained ground during the later 20th century, especially among "students of Celtic culture".[20] On the other hand, the /s/ pronunciation remains the most recognised form when it occurs in the names of sports teams, most notably Celtic Football Club and the Boston Celtics basketball team.
Snowman,
I had to copy/paste your comment about celtic to my friend in London, who was convinced that it had always been keltic. She's a retired head teacher (principal, used to be "headmistress/master"), so I didn't question her. She was surprised, and wanted me to ask the group how to pronounce a place located on the island of Anglesey in Wales. I have been there, in fact, I have a picture of me under the sign with the village name. The village name is "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysili ogogogoch".
C. T.
Dubya61,
I'm not sure the natives could pronounce it. I like your choices. By the way, notice the space before "ogogogoch"? That's because something in this reply system won't let me type a word that long. I edited it three times and it still forces the space.
C. T.
Locals have called it "Depp-O" since the 60's...you can tell a non-local by this mistake in local pronunciation...
So far nobody has suggested the pronunciation:
Er De-put.
Growing up in Choctaw and with Midwest City as "our" shopping area we used Air Depp O quite often, and we knew it as a Boulevard and not a Road.
Well, the proper pronunciation is "DeePo" according to my Garmin GPS! She must be right since she is always so precise on all other street pronunciations. And of course if you use a GPS, you have probably heard her/him mangle quite a few street names.
C. T.
How come your Garmin refuses to recognize that it is a "Boulevard" rather than simply a "Road" . . . ? =)
Dude. When you throw down a gauntlet like that you better be ready to deal with Gaia.
(or some lesser Neanderthalian/Scandiavian/Viking/SemiCelticDruidian Deities . . . and, if that ain't enough . . .
be prepared to deal with St. Patrick.
(insert The Big Voice Guy:
"He drove the snakes out of Ireland . . .
and He's lookin' fer sumpin' t' do." =)
Deep-o.
How does Garmin pronounce Alex? The locals call it ELick.
Thanks for the response. That would be hard to do; the roads around Alex have CS numbers and CR numbers. One east-west road has a local nickname "Alex Road" but I don't think that's an oficial name. On the rare occasion you hear Alex mentioned on the news the newsreaders not from around here pronounce it AL-ecks, the newsreaders who are more familiar with it pronounce it AL-eck, but the locals very decidedly call it EL-ick.
That goes along with CARnegie in Caddo county; back east they'd call it carNEGie. Of course, as mentioned above it's HObart in Oklahoma and hoBART in Indiana and Tasmania.
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