SHOCK POLL: Cornett Destroying Shadid in Virtually Every Demographic Category

[soonerguru]

News 9 / Gazette poll shows Cornett winning by 45 points. He's leading among every age group and every ideological group, from "very liberal" to "very conservative." The only demographic category the poll showed Shadid leading was among people making less than $25k a year.

If this poll holds up, STEVE HUNT will have performed better among voters than Ed Shadid, and Hunt had exactly no money to spend on his campaign.

This shows what a disaster Ed's campaign strategy is and how politically tone deaf he is. You can't do anything to help anyone if you can't get elected, and once elected, if you cannot rally people to your side, you cannot accomplish any of your initiatives.

It's also political folly to screw over people who helped get you elected in the first place. If you have no loyalty to people who worked for you, how can you be trusted by the citizens?

Here's a link to the poll:

Poll: Cornett Leads Shadid By Wide Margin In OKC Mayor's Race - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports |

[jerrywall]

Coming tomorrow... the in depth *cough* piece of *something* from the Red Dirt Report breaking down how Chamber lackeys News 9 and The Gazette worked together to try to discourage Shadid voters with manufactured polling data.

[soonerguru]

I actually think Shadid will overperform this poll. But who cares? I see the top end of his vote somewhere between 35-38%. Considering the amount of money he has spent and the significant volunteer base he has had to build on, this would be a massive electoral failure. To not even exceed Steve Hunt's numbers? Wow. I'm starting to believe that Shadid's council seat is far from safe at this point.

[MWCGuy]

Oklahomans typically have the opinion of "If it is not broke, don't fix it" when it comes to politics. Cornett has been a great leader and an excellent ambassador. I honestly think he should run for governor in foreseeable future. I think he would break away from the chains of the typical politician and work to encourage the legislature to produce and pass legislation that puts the state on a good solid footing for the future instead of these stupid bills that do nothing but, cater to the lunatic fringe of each respective party.

[catch22]

Wow! This race is closer than I had feared!

[Bellaboo]

Anyone with half a brain can see right through Shadid. Nothing to worry about here.

[David]

Glad to see that sanity prevails, but it is not yet time to rest.

[kevinpate]

Anyone with half a brain can see right through Shadid. Nothing to worry about here.

Those are never the people to fret over, unless they get busy and do not bother to show up.
The less than half a brain folks tend to not get too busy to show up.
Polls like this can make the busy folk not take the time to vote, as they tend to think it is in the bag. Hopefully, that won't play out, but it's been a concern of mine regarding the OKC race.

[catcherinthewry]

Oklahomans typically have the opinion of "If it is not broke, don't fix it" when it comes to politics.

In order for Shadid to be elected we'd have to have more of a "If it is not broke, let's break it" mentality.

[Edgar]

In order for Shadid to be elected we'd have to have more of a "If it is not broke, let's break it" mentality.

What'll be broke is the town once the MAPSIII folly is fully executed. Imagine the numbers will be rather closer on voting day. Lot of people may be reluctant to publicly back Shadid being that he likes to smoke crack with gay prostitutes. Whatever the results, Shadid's candidacy has shone a bright light on the meet behind closed doors in small groups to avoid violating the open meetings act plutocracy that is OKC governance.

[kevinpate]

... people may be reluctant to publicly back Shadid being that he likes to smoke crack with gay prostitutes. ...

Slowly he turns, step by step, perhaps toward the light?

[MWCGuy]

MAPS 3 Folly? I would hardly call it that. After all we are one of a few cities were new businesses are opening instead of closing and people are moving here because you can find work and you can afford to live here.

[Edgar]

MAPS 3 Folly? I would hardly call it that. After all we are one of a few cities were new businesses are opening instead of closing and people are moving here because you can find work and you can afford to live here.

MAPSIII is a half baked special interests insult to the franchise

[LakeEffect]

MAPSIII is a half baked special interests insult to the franchise

Those dang seniors and their special interest needs for activity centers.
Those dang residents and their desires for sidewalks and trails.
Those dang visitors that come to our convention center and our State Fair Park to spend $$$ and bolster the economy.

I hate special interests.

[CaptDave]

MAPSIII is a half baked special interests insult to the franchise

And differs from MAPS how exactly?

Baseball stadium for the special interests of baseball fans and the Redhawks?
Oklahoma River dams - special interest of people who like to row boats in water rather than in a gym?
Ford Center - special interests of concert promoters and people who can afford concert tickets?
Bricktown canal - those darn business special interests who made a few bucks developing a run down warehouse district?
Library - the literate special interest of people who like to read?
Civic Center - special interest of OKC Phil and other arts organizations?

Will you ever realize that everyone is a special interest? And MAPS has been an excellent vehicle to fund large scale public infrastructure that serves thousands of those special interests in differing ways.

The sort of tired old sloganeering and weak rhetoric you have used trying to demonize people provides the stereotype of the loony liberal who hates business. But I suppose that is who Ed appeals to most while clear thinking people regardless of political philosophy realize Mayor Cornett has done a very good job and is the obvious best choice on Mar 4th. Why don't you go stand on the corner and chant "hey hey, ho ho, MAPS and plutocrats have got to go" rather than waste 1's and 0's here?

[king183]

When it comes to age, Cornett seems to get most of his support from voters over the age of 50, but he also tops Shadid in younger demographics. One in three 18 to 34-year-olds prefer Cornett over Shadid, although that age category also had the highest number of undecided voters at 17 percent, according to the poll.

I don't understand how the 18-34 year old demographic can be so undecided in this race, given that Cornett has done so much to improve the quality of life and appeal of Oklahoma City for this age group. Cornett should be receiving every single one of these votes. I hear on a daily basis from people in this age range that they love what OKC has become and, for those who live in other cities, they can't wait to move here.

[Edgar]

And differs from MAPS how exactly?

Baseball stadium for the special interests of baseball fans and the Redhawks?
Oklahoma River dams - special interest of people who like to row boats in water rather than in a gym?
Ford Center - special interests of concert promoters and people who can afford concert tickets?
Bricktown canal - those darn business special interests who made a few bucks developing a run down warehouse district?
Library - the literate special interest of people who like to read?
Civic Center - special interest of OKC Phil and other arts organizations?

Will you ever realize that everyone is a special interest? And MAPS has been an excellent vehicle to fund large scale public infrastructure that serves thousands of those special interests in differing ways.

The sort of tired old sloganeering and weak rhetoric you have used trying to demonize people provides the stereotype of the loony liberal who hates business. But I suppose that is who Ed appeals to most while clear thinking people regardless of political philosophy realize Mayor Cornett has done a very good job and is the obvious best choice on Mar 4th. Why don't you go stand on the corner and chant "hey hey, ho ho, MAPS and plutocrats have got to go" rather than waste 1's and 0's here?

OKC needed a new concert venue with a greater capacity to get back on the concert circuit, and everyone was excited by the new ballpark and a lively Bricktown. The franchise got highjacked by the chamber interests in the III iteration. Remeber Shadid's "finished as promised" pledge in context. Cornett made the imperious edict that he wasn't ceding any power to any danged MAPS committee, and Pat Ryan questioning the streetcar. This before we found out it's an amusement ride rather than actual public transport. The timeline vote proved this was all about the cc promoted by downtown special interests.

[CaptDave]

"Needed" a new concert venue? For whom? Those special interests that could make more money promoting concerts? I bet the concert promoters and arena operators are members of the evil chamber. Same with the baseball team owners.

You didn't say "junta" but added "imperious edict". That is rich considering who you have sworn fealty to. (Not rich as in wealth because I know you hate that stuff. Rich as is ironic.)

Amusement ride? You're being silly now. Or did you go to a seminar and are an expert on transit design and engineering too? Maybe you live near a Holiday Inn Express?

The doc started out doing ok on the council asking a few uncomfortable questions that needed to be asked. I even agree the MAPS timeline vote was not handled well. Unfortunately, somewhere along the way, that evolved into quasi paranoia about vast plutocratic conspiracies and resulted in alienating most of the other council members including those who were once inclined to work with him. But keep rambling and ranting - you have become the caricature of the Shadid supporter and there's no need to change now. "Hey hey, ho ho......."

[Edgar]

"Needed" a new concert venue? For whom? Those special interests that could make more money promoting concerts? I bet the concert promoters and arena operators are members of the evil chamber. Same with the baseball team owners.

You didn't say "junta" but added "imperious edict". That is rich considering who you have sworn fealty to. (Not rich as in wealth because I know you hate that stuff. Rich as is ironic.)

Amusement ride? You're being silly now. Or did you go to a seminar and are an expert on transit design and engineering too? Maybe you live near a Holiday Inn Express?

The doc started out doing ok on the council asking a few uncomfortable questions that needed to be asked. I even agree the MAPS timeline vote was not handled well. Unfortunately, somewhere along the way, that evolved into quasi paranoia about vast plutocratic conspiracies and resulted in alienating most of the other council members including those who were once inclined to work with him. But keep rambling and ranting - you have become the caricature of the Shadid supporter and there's no need to change now. "Hey hey, ho ho......."

Not a transport expert but apparently the people that are weren't invited to the meeting.
Don't have to take my word, hear it from the head of the chamber junta, MAPSIII all about getting the least popular most expensive project done before the $ runs out for the projects people actually voted on.Greater Oklahoma City Chamber - A Gathering Place for Us and Them Shouldn't they have been addressed in order of popularity?
I'm going to the Joe Bonamassa show in April at the arena, so it's serving my special interest and the 1000's of other who'll be in attendance.

[Midtowner]

I gave you that link awhile ago (and you never responded to the point) and it says nowhere in there what you're saying it says.

[CaptDave]

Not a transport expert but apparently the people that are weren't invited to the meeting.
Don't have to take my word, hear it from the head of the chamber junta, MAPSIII all about getting the least popular most expensive project done before the $ runs out for the projects people actually voted on.Greater Oklahoma City Chamber - A Gathering Place for Us and Them Shouldn't they have been addressed in order of popularity?
I'm going to the Joe Bonamassa show in April at the arena, so it's serving my special interest and the 1000's of other who'll be in attendance.

Good - enjoy it. But stop complaining about other special interests that differ from yours. Thousands of high school students might graduate in the new CC some day, local residents will enjoy a nicer venue for home & garden shows, different local organizations will hold balls, and those terrible plutocratic oil & gas people might host industry trade meetings there also. But you cannot get away from "junta" very long can you?

"While a convention center is no doubt an important economic driver and generator for the visitor industry, there is much more to what a convention center brings to Oklahoma City. Since 1972 the Myriad, now the Cox Convention Center, has been our community's meeting place. It is where we celebrate with events like graduations, banquets and concerts. It is where we feed the hungry each year at Thanksgiving. It is where we meet to talk about business, or hold a prayer breakfast or even mourn our losses, as we did recently for Clara Luper. In fact, if you look at attendance and revenue numbers for the Cox Center, you would find that two-thirds of all attendees at the convention center (340,000 of the total 520,000) are "us", not out-of-town visitors."

BTW - that junta you hate clearly stated convention business in OKC is 2/3 local, so the new CC will be mostly for those special interests like you and I who attend various community events. And if the new cc attracts a few more out of town meetings and events, that is a bonus and not something to gripe about. So stop trying the divide and conquer nonsense. That tactic has failed miserably by all indications. You may want to reconsider your statements and links you use trying to support a position that has been rejected by most clear thinking people.

[kevinpate]

Edgar, you've drank so much kool-aid it's diluted your brain activity.
Evil junta putting the cc first. If that was what was tried, the evil junta is a toothless blunder.

Sidewalks - already being constructed, and additional funds dedicated to keep building more. Meanwhile, cc has a planned spot, though not purchased.
Trails - Already underway, with more to come. Meanwhile, cc has a planned spot, though not purchased.
Street car - whether amusing or practical plus, route set, work progressing. Meanwhile, cc has a planned spot, though not purchased.
River improvements - already underway, with more planned. Meanwhile, cc has a planned spot, though not purchased.
Whitewater facility - ground breaking set for 2014. Meanwhile, cc has a planned spot, though not purchased.
Aquatic centers - not recalling but discussions underway. Meanwhile, cc has a planned spot, though not purchased.
Fairgrounds - design completed; site work started(?) Meanwhile, cc has a planned spot, though not purchased.
Park - land acquired; clearing underway; designs being developed. Meanwhile, cc has a planned spot, though not purchased.

I tell ya something there lil fib-monger, if the city chamber actually were an evil junta intent on imposing their will to force a cc through first ahead of all else, the most one could say is that they really, really suck at implementing such an agenda.

[bchris02]

I don't understand how the 18-34 year old demographic can be so undecided in this race, given that Cornett has done so much to improve the quality of life and appeal of Oklahoma City for this age group. Cornett should be receiving every single one of these votes. I hear on a daily basis from people in this age range that they love what OKC has become and, for those who live in other cities, they can't wait to move here.

The 18-34 demographic is very enticed by Shadid's liberal position on social issues. Most Shadid voters I have spoken with are voting for him because they support gay rights and a woman's right to choose. They know little of his actual policies and vision for the city.

[warreng88]

Who is this "Junta" I keep seeing referenced? Is that Shadid's coke dealer? Is that the new Heisenberg?

[CaptDave]

The 18-34 demographic is very enticed by Shadid's liberal position on social issues. Most Shadid voters I have spoken with are voting for him because they support gay rights and a woman's right to choose. They know little of his actual policies and vision for the city.

If that is their primary reason for supporting Ed over Mick, you may want to show them this endorsement for Mayor Cornett (will try to get direct link for you, but if you are on facebook, search "Progressives for Mayor Cornett"):

From Jim Roth
On March 4, We Pick Mick!

We are proud citizens of the City of Oklahoma City who strongly support Mayor Mick Cornett. We are also business owners, taxpayers and your neighbors who believe in our City and all its citizens. As members of Oklahoma City’s gay and lesbian community, we offer our endorsement for Mayor Mick Cornett.

We support MAPS and the continuation of the renaissance of Oklahoma City that began with MAPS. We well remember the time when our city was divided, struggling to get past the economic and social stagnation that gripped us.

Thanks to the vision of unity started by then Mayor Ron Norick and continued by Mayor Mick Cornett, our city has built considerable momentum to move us all forward. Today, under Mayor Cornett’s leadership, our City has one of the strongest economies in the nation and is more welcoming and inclusive than at any time in our history:

* “Top Ten Best Cities for Millennials” (Source: Huffington Post and 24/7 Wall Street – June 2012),
* “No 1 Best Place to Launch a Business” (Source: Kauffman Foundation, 2010),
* “No 1 City for Job Creation” (Source: Gallup, March 2012),
* “No 1 City for Economic Strength” (Source: The Business Journals, November 2012), and most recently
* “No 4 Most Aspirational City” (Source: The Daily Beast, February 2014).

Mayor Cornett is a proven leader. He has worked tirelessly to build consensus on issues important to our City. He works across party lines for our common good transcending racial, ethnic, religious and sexual orientation barriers. He has made our City a healthier, more prosperous place for every citizen including those in the LGBT community.

We believe our City is headed in the right direction, yet we must continue to progress. We believe Mayor Cornett’s proven leadership will continue that unity, that momentum, and the forward-thinking that has gotten us to this point. His record has earned another term as our mayor.

If you agree, please join us, show your support and pick Mick on March 4th!

Respectfully,
Aaron Barton
John Martin Beebe
Jim Benson
Jim Busenbark
C Lizz Caywood
Gene Goforth
Sally Hasenfratz
Scotty Irani
Lionel Loveless
Monty Milburn
Jane Ann Norris
Richard Ogden
Sandra Precure
Greg Pruitt
Jeff Riles
Nancy Love Robertson
Jim Roth
Jeremy Salazar
Joe Sangirardi
JB Schuelein
Curt Stamp
Anne Zachritz