I'm surprised B-Belt Oklahoma didn't have this on the ballot

[Easy180]

Seeing as we lead the free world in laws designed to restrict fun (Slight exaggeration)

4-foot rule's defeat means Seattle reverts to old law


It looks like lap dances will remain legal in Seattle.

With a no vote on Seattle Referendum 1, voters were firmly rejecting the city's "four-foot rule," which would have banned lap dances by requiring exotic dancers and customers to keep their distance.

The rule was part of a strict new strip-club ordinance approved by the Seattle City Council last year. The ordinance also would have banned direct tipping of dancers, forced clubs to install brighter lights and prohibited private dances some clubs offer in "VIP" rooms or booths.

Such regulations are common in more conservative suburbs. But they apparently went against the grain of Seattle's urban electorate.

"I think Seattle is more open-minded and liberal than our politicians give us credit for being," said Tim Killian, campaign manager for Seattle Citizens for Free Speech, the strip-club-funded campaign to overturn the rules, which were not being enforced pending the vote. The campaign was as lopsided as any in Seattle history, with clubs raising $866,000 for the effort to overturn the four-foot rule; supporters of the rule raised nothing. The clubs used the money to pay for TV ads portraying supporters of the ordinance as moral scolds.

[Patrick]

Seeing as we lead the free world in laws designed to restrict fun (Slight exaggeration)

It's called respecting morals.

[sweetdaisy]

It's called forcing others to live by your morals.

[Patrick]

It's called having morals.

[sweetdaisy]

based on your opinion. Last time I checked, morals are a personal issue.

[Patrick]

based on your opinion. Last time I checked, morals are a personal issue.

In other words, no absolutes. Everyone create their own sense of what's right and wrong. Sounds like a good plan to me. Lets do away with government laws altogether.

[Patrick]

I personally like the term ethics better:

Ethics, N,: the rules of conduct recognized in respect to a particular class of human actions or a particular group, culture, etc.: medical ethics; Christian ethics.

Hmmm, don't see anything about it being a personal matter. That's from Webster's.

[sweetdaisy]

whatever patrick. If you feel like having an argument about morals, go ahead and do it. Maybe we can get Christian Conservative and TheComedian back here to chime in about what is right and wrong.

Apparently, the majority of the population in Seattle is without morals, according to you.

[sweetdaisy]

yeah, and you used the word morals first...not ethics

[sweetdaisy]

Patrick probably thinks tattoos and the lottery are morally and ethically wrong too. Perhaps the government should once again forbid those actions?

[Patrick]

Okay, okay.

Morals, N: Conforming to standards of what is right or just in behavior according to the beliefs of a culture; virtuous: a moral life.

[Patrick]

Patrick probably thinks tattoos and the lottery are morally and ethically wrong too. Perhaps the government should once again regulate those actions?

Nope, I voted yes for the lottery.

[sweetdaisy]

Hmmm...and what are the beliefs of our culture?

[Patrick]

Well, our legal system is based on judeo-Christian values.

[sweetdaisy]

As I said, apparently the voters of Seattle are lacking morals and are probably heathens

[Easy180]

You call it morals...I call it the Fun Police

That referendum if passed would have put a lot of med and law school students stripping their way through school out of luck

[Patrick]

You call it morals...I call it the Fun Police

That referendum if passed would have put a lot of med and law school students stripping their way through school out of luck

Sorry, you can't work in medical school. So it wouldn't have affected us.

[Patrick]

As I said, apparently the voters of Seattle are lacking morals and are probably heathens

I don't believe I stated that anywhere.

[sweetdaisy]

I don't believe I ever said you did. Based on your haughty comments, it is inferred, though.

[Patrick]

Judeo-Christian

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[Intrepid]

What gets me is that those who wanted this law to be passed probably wouldn't ever step into one of those places. So how does a lap dance they will never receive hurt them?

I lump it in the same boat as television or movie watching: if you don't like what's on TV or showing at the theater, don't turn on the TV or buy a ticket. But don't force others to conform to your beliefs.

I'm Intrepid, and that's my two cents. (I think I actually threw up a little as I was typing that)

[Keith]

It's called having morals.

I agree wholeheartedly with that.

[Intrepid]

I agree wholeheartedly with that.

While I totally respect, and believe you're entitled to your morals, they are just that, yours. They shouldn't be forced on others with opposing points of view.

[Keith]

While I totally respect, and believe you're entitled to your morals, they are just that, yours. They shouldn't be forced on others with opposing points of view.

Don't get testy. I am not forcing my opinions on anyone, I am just stating them....like you are. I do have that right, you know. So put your guns away.

[Keith]

What gets me is that those who wanted this law to be passed probably wouldn't ever step into one of those places. So how does a lap dance they will never receive hurt them?

I lump it in the same boat as television or movie watching: if you don't like what's on TV or showing at the theater, don't turn on the TV or buy a ticket. But don't force others to conform to your beliefs.

I'm Intrepid, and that's my two cents. (I think I actually threw up a little as I was typing that)

Calm down....nobody is forcing anything on you....but we do have our opinions.