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[Rover]

Also interesting: The campuses they built evoked old fashioned buildings. Chesapeake's campus has a lot of cherokee gothic feel to it (IMO). MidFirsts banks look like cozy little english manors.

You need to drive by Chesapeake then. Almost all of their development the last few years has been the most contemporary office buildings in the city. And their older buildings were not Cherokee Gothic, but Georgian, I believe (OSU stlyle vs. OU style - LOL, Rand Elliot graduated OSU)

[Spartan]

And most Peakies came from OSU at the height of the company's excess

[Rover]

And most Peakies came from OSU at the height of the company's excess

Yes, and Burns was a director.

[OKCRT]

That Co-Op just screams NFL Stadium. I mean that would be the perfect spot for a big time state of the art stadium. Move over jerry World-OKC is the new kid in Town. We are gonna steal the Raiders and build many hotels and fine dining and get the 2025 Super Bowl. Just like Indy did in the past. This is OKCs destiny,right?

[shawnw]

so... we're kind of having this conversation already over the the COOP thead...

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[OKCRT]

Now to the Stage Center. Has the plans changed or is RW still planning on building that short little building on that prime land next to the World Class Devon building? Surely he has come to his senses and realized that this land is just too good for what he and OG&E want to put there. If they would stack that other 10 story hotel on top of the 15 story OG&E building at least that would be a move in the right direction. Still wouldn't be tall enough but it would make a dent in the skyline at least. If OG&E is just leasing then why couldn't RW get together with someone else that wants to build the hotel and just keep going up instead of stopping at OG&Es level?

[TAlan CB]

You need to drive by Chesapeake then. Almost all of their development the last few years has been the most contemporary office buildings in the city. And their older buildings were not Cherokee Gothic, but Georgian, I believe (OSU stlyle vs. OU style - LOL, Rand Elliot graduated OSU)

I was thinking the same thing, unless I remembered incorrectly, Chesapeake reminded me of OSU Stillwater campus - Georgian Colonial. I was wondering if the owners or architect had been a OSU alum. At one time OSU had a more eclectic campus, but when they expanded in the 1950's they choose a architectural style for the campus - Georgian Colonial. Some of the buildings on campus were already done in Federalist style, and since it is a related style to Georgian Colonial all they had to do was add new roofs, etc. to make them similar to what the 'newer' buildings around, and including the Library and Student Union looked like. One of the things I liked about the OU campus was, Despite being set in a Neo-Gothic style, they weren't 'religious' about it. In recent years they have gone back to Gothic uniformity - in a much more 'watered down' flexibility.

[TAlan CB]

Now to the Stage Center. Has the plans changed or is RW still planning on building that short little building on that prime land next to the World Class Devon building? Surely he has come to his senses and realized that this land is just too good for what he and OG&E want to put there. If they would stack that other 10 story hotel on top of the 15 story OG&E building at least that would be a move in the right direction. Still wouldn't be tall enough but it would make a dent in the skyline at least. If OG&E is just leasing then why couldn't RW get together with someone else that wants to build the hotel and just keep going up instead of stopping at OG&Es level?

I have to agree, to replace Stage Center with this building is a travesty. While I disagree that Stage Center should be destroyed, what's going to happen is going to happen. And something desired and useful should be built. The tower atop the 'mall' is 'adequate' in design, but should go all the wall to the ground and be higher. The Style of this project is right out of urban modern concept from the 1950's-60's. Seen all over NYC (Pan Am complex) and spread across the world. Even OKC had such a project built some time ago - 50 Penn Place. It creates an uninviting street wall with the front entrance (facing east) in afternoon shade. Worse, it puts the new school with a ugly wall across the street instead of an inviting - or at least interesting - view.

[MustangGT]

That Co-Op just screams NFL Stadium. I mean that would be the perfect spot for a big time state of the art stadium. Move over jerry World-OKC is the new kid in Town. We are gonna steal the Raiders and build many hotels and fine dining and get the 2025 Super Bowl. Just like Indy did in the past. This is OKCs destiny,right?

Nope. It will never happen. OKC simply does not meet NFL requirements most particularily population density and income level. As to Stage Center the debacle of a monstrosity cannot be gone soon enough.

[Lazio85]

This should add to the discussion that this board is having on Stage Center design, land re-purpose, and place in history.

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[OKCRT]

If Indy can do it so can OKC. Indy is not much bigger than we are and OKC is growing at a better clip I believe.

[UnFrSaKn]

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10:52
Comment From Randall
Stage Center bit the dust and now a really hip, stylish OG&E HQ will be build there. Do we have any quarantee that the 12-16 story building will be built as advertized, or they change it at the last minute and build another Kerr-McGee-type corporate HQ? (Nobody can ID the Kerr McGee Bldg in downdown, my point, it's anonymous)

10:53
Steve Lackmeyer: I can guarantee it won't be built as advertized because you didn't read the full "ad." The renderings released so far are conceptual site plan models, and not a depiction of the final exterior design.

[OKCisOK4me]

Yeah, those conceptual renderings are totally hip and stylish! lol

[MustangGT]

Considering the majority of posts on this thread are opinion and emotionally based take it for what it is worth.

[bchris02]

Yeah, those conceptual renderings are totally hip and stylish! lol

When I read that it sounded like sarcasm to me.

[OKCisOK4me]

When I read that it sounded like sarcasm to me.

I hope so, lol.

[ljbab728]

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Yes, that has been mentioned numerous times. Many people just don't realize it so it has to be repeated.

[dj j2o]

If we could just get all the Oklahoma City out of Oklahoma City we would have something!

Perfect!

[dj j2o]

I'm just glad that we finally figured out a way to get that pesky sunlight off of Myriad Gardens a little earlier in the day. *insert sarcasm

Seriously bummed about the demise of Stage Center. I've never seen another building like it anywhere and I have done my fair share of traveling. Every time I look at it I smile and I think about when I was a kid and used to make forts and tree houses and cardboard box mazes.

[betts]

I'm just glad that we finally figured out a way to get that pesky sunlight off of Myriad Gardens a little earlier in the day. *insert sarcasm

Seriously bummed about the demise of Stage Center. I've never seen another building like it anywhere and I have done my fair share of traveling. Every time I look at it I smile and I think about when I was a kid and used to make forts and tree houses and cardboard box mazes.

Me too. If I were a multimillionaire I would find a way to be part owner of the Thunder and save the Stage Center. Sigh.

[Pete]

Preservation Oklahoma just today filed with the Board of Appeals to overturn the decision to demolish Stage Center.

Will be heard at the BOA meeting on March 6th.

[Just the facts]

On what ground did they file their appeal?

[Pete]

At this stage, all you can see is that they filed. The application won't be available to view until about a week before the meeting.

[Urbanized]

Noble effort - one they pretty much have to undertake to remain loyal to their mission - but the chances of that decision being overturned are less than zero.

[BDP]

Noble effort - one they pretty much have to undertake to remain loyal to their mission - but the chances of that decision being overturned are less than zero.

Yeah. They pretty much have to take whatever steps are available to try and preserve one of the few "one of a kind" structures in Oklahoma, no matter what interests are on the other side, if for nothing else just to stay relevant.