What would it take for you to vote for MAPS IV?

[warreng88]

With all this talk about MAPS IV, what projects would HAVE to be on the ballot for you to vote for it. Let's not worry about the language, just the actual projects. And let's assume everything would be on budget.

[PWitty]

Wow, 23 and I still don't read directions. Didn't realize I could choose multiple answers. All of those would be a positive, obviously, but anything that would improve public transit would be big IMO.

[OKCisOK4me]

Bus System Upgrades need to be implemented to where the bus is running continuously every day and night til, say, 11PM. Routes need to be analyzed and readdressed if necessary. I will never ride the system but it needs to be incorporated to tie in with all modes of transportation including the streetcar.

Streetcar Expansion on the scale of branching out in a 5 mile radius from Downtown OKC. Pick a route or two or three into or on the border of various neighborhoods in and around downtown. Those people feel left out in the cold because they think that MAPS 3 is for CBD Downtown only.

I chose Other for urban cycling purposes. Having a city street as a "sharrow" is nice and the dedicated lanes downtown as part of Project 90 are a start, but we need to further expand bicycle lanes from our center. I think starting off with funding to turn Harvey all the way up to NW 36th would be an awesome start to bringing an awareness of this to the drivers of Oklahoma City.

[OKVision4U]

Does Phase II of the Convention Center include the Hotel? ....then yes.

[Pete]

I've said several times that recreation (bike, running, hiking trails, improved parks, possibly a large aquatic center near the river, etc.) should be the primary focus, along with extending the streetcar to the Health Sciences Center.

[OKVision4U]

Indoor Snow Skiing? ...sure. Energy Tower of 1,000 ft. ... sure.

[warreng88]

Does Phase II of the Convention Center include the Hotel? ....then yes.

No. The Convention Hotel would be funded another way. TIF money if memory serves me correctly. This would be just adding more meeting/exhibition space to the new convention center.

[Plutonic Panda]

Indoor Snow Skiing? ...sure. Energy Tower of 1,000 ft. ... sure.

you want MAPS to pay for an energy tower?

[Plutonic Panda]

Also any other MAPS needs to be light-rail not commuter.

[OKVision4U]

you want MAPS to pay for an energy tower?

It's my Christmas list, I can add what I want. ha.

[OKVision4U]

No. The Convention Hotel would be funded another way. TIF money if memory serves me correctly. This would be just adding more meeting/exhibition space to the new convention center.

ok, then I'm for that too.

[warreng88]

For the people who voted for Other, what would you like to see, minus the indoor skiing, of course...

[Stew]

I don't live in OKC but if I did I would vote for maps IV based solely on the success of the previous maps projects.

[OKCisOK4me]

It's my Christmas list, I can add what I want. ha.

Lets try to keep this realistic, k?

For the people who voted for Other, what would you like to see, minus the indoor skiing, of course...

I already broke down my "other" in my OP.

[OKVision4U]

For the people who voted for Other, what would you like to see, minus the indoor skiing, of course...

This would be a unique offering in the South Central Region and I / we don't have to fly / drive to Denver and give them our money. ...so, one of my others is Indoor Skiing.

[warreng88]

I already broke down my "other" in my OP.

I saw yours. I meant this more for other people who didn't post. Thanks for the details. I would like to see more bike-friendly areas not just around lakes and rivers in OKC as well. Pick a street that isn't as highly traveled like Portland and make it three lanes instead of four with dedicated bike lanes on either side. Wouldn't cost too much money. Just somoe specialty paint and time.

[Dubya61]

My Other is Regional Transit Authority. I'm pretty sure that it shouldn't be branded as MAPS, but maybe that's where MAPS needs to end and RTA takes over.

[OKCisOK4me]

My Other is Regional Transit Authority. I'm pretty sure that it shouldn't be branded as MAPS, but maybe that's where MAPS needs to end and RTA takes over.

That's why I didn't vote commuter rail as a MAPS IV vision. It needs to be funded another way and RTAs are the way to go, with each city on each planned line being a part of the funding source.

[bradh]

I don't live in OKC but if I did I would vote for maps IV based solely on the success of the previous maps projects.

Which is exactly why I chose every option in this poll. I will probably never ride a bus in OKC, but many others do, so why not help improve them (but don't confuse me with Shadid who seems to think the bus system is the only priority in OKC).

[bradh]

but maybe that's where MAPS needs to end and RTA takes over.

MAPS isn't a transit only deal, it just happens to include transit projects. Having a RTA would not/should not replace MAPS.

[bradh]

But seriously, a soccer stadium I'd really like to see, but we need to see how the USL/NASL thing pans out first.

[Spartan]

For those of you that want bus system upgrades to somehow come from MAPS, keep in mind that MAPS IS CAPITAL FUNDING. NOT OPERATIONAL. Sometimes governing is a science, not an art.

I would absolutely support a substantial regional tax that would fund a consolidated metro bus system along with these rail capital projects. That needs to be a permanent tax, and if upgraded bus service is funded with any tax that has a sunset, that could lead to a disaster later on down the road.

When I saw convention center expansion I lol'd. Hard. For me, all I really want out of the next MAPS is rails. Rails, nothing else, or no vote from me. It's that simple. I want to be able to reach out to real, different, and diverse communities and build a streetcar network that serves the vision of bus advocates. We don't have to argue at each other from across the aisle.

[Urban Pioneer]

keep in mind that MAPS IS CAPITAL FUNDING. NOT OPERATIONAL.

That is unless part of the penny is converted over to permanent status. The talks are for one quarter up to three quarters made permanent to fund the Operations and Maintenance. It is an ongoing internal discussion and debate. Stay posted!

This is a big reason that Ed Shadid is such a fraud. If he cared one damn about public transit, he would leave the MAPS brand alone and allow us to develop a regional solution to take to the voters.

[mkjeeves]

Bingo, Spartan.

The convention center promised was supposed to be good for decades. Guess that was a lie if we're talking expanding it in my lifetime. Either single measure or attempts to logroll any more effort on it or a soccer stadium are deal killers for me.

I'd probably support masstrans but nothing vaguely resembling some of the napkin sketch planning voted on in the past. It's going to take some detail.

[betts]

That is unless part of the penny is converted over to permanent status. The talks are for one quarter up to three quarters made permanent to fund the Operations and Maintenance. It is an ongoing internal discussion and debate. Stay posted!

This is a big reason that Ed Shadid is such a fraud. If he cared one damn about public transit, he would leave the MAPS brand alone and allow us to develop a regional solution to take to the voters.

If he cared about anything other than personal power he would realize that he will have to go back to the voters to pass any revenue generating bond issue, as well as MAPS-type issue. It's hard to cure hunger, poverty, fix education, cure the mentally ill and revamp the bus system, including shelters all along its route (Isn't that his platform?At least today) without money and lots of it. Destroy the brand and he runs the risk of not being able to improve a lot more than just transit. An angry electorate is not a generous electorate.