Ed Shadid Launches Formal Attack on MAPS 3 Conv Center in tandem with Mayoral Bid

[betts]

Led by a $14.5 million capital grant from the Donald W. Reynolds Foundation and by an extraordinary outpouring of support from more the 500 foundations, corporations, and individual donors, the $40 million goal was reached to build and endow the new museum, entirely with private funds.

Museum History :: OKCMOA

My mistake. But I would be happy to spend my tax dollars on it, even if I never visited it. I pay taxes for schools never attended by family members of mine. I've never ridden a boat on the Bricktown canal but Im glad its there. My point is that if we're going to be members of a community, we can pay taxes for things that don't benefit us directly. That's being a good citizen. And the favor is returned by other citizens.

[soonerguru]

Credit where credit is due:

Led by a $14.5 million capital grant from the Donald W. Reynolds Foundation and by an extraordinary outpouring of support from more the 500 foundations, corporations, and individual donors, the $40 million goal was reached to build and endow the new museum, entirely with private funds.

Museum History :: OKCMOA

Great find, MK. But in the spirit of intellectual honesty, you'll note that the tireless efforts of Carolyn Hill to build that museum downtown owe much to the city taxpayers' support of MAPS. She said so.

[BrettM2]

Seems El Shadid just wants the best informed voting public and thinks the secretive plutocrats were deceptive in the promotion of the cc. It doesn't cost $, it saaaves $!

So what's his plan? No more throwing out your bulletin board comments. Try giving an actual answer... What will Ed do if he were in charge? Actual, possible things. What will he do?

[kevinpate]

So what's his plan? No more throwing out your bulletin board comments. Try giving an actual answer... What will Ed do if he were in charge? Actual, possible things. What will he do?

If history is any indicator: throw stuff, get buzzed, tell lies, etc.

[PhiAlpha]

If history is any indicator: throw stuff, get buzzed, tell lies, etc.

Add To the list: do some blow, load up redtube.com and watch some porn with children, and beat his future next ex-wife.

[Steve]

Shocking, a couple rich white chamber guys who profited nicely from their public service support this $ pit folly. thank God Humphreys ran for senate before he did real damage. Guy had a bizarre yen to raze the last existing Gold Dome. Had it in for the historic Walnut Creek bridge also. Go away sir.

This is dishonest. Humphreys never had anything to do with efforts to tear down the told dome or the Walnut AVENUE bridge.

[betts]

This is dishonest. Humphreys never had anything to do with efforts to tear down the told dome or the Walnut AVENUE bridge.

Edgar doesn't even realize he's being dishonest because he's just mouthing Ed-speak propaganda. Either that or he's Steve Hunt. He's not quite weird enough or rude enough to convince me that he's Hunt, but the drivel is similar.

Does Edgar have a Seattle IP address Pete?

[mugofbeer]

I dont know if this has been discussed on this thread , yet, or not, but I believe even the monster CCs in Dallas and Denver both needed major convention center hotels. I believe in both cases the cities had to subsidize the cost of construction. I also believe the hotels in both cities are pretty successful.

Can anyone provide info on the new ones in Nashville and Omaha? I dont recall seeing a major hotel next to Omaha's.

[bradh]

Edgar...there is nothing secretive in that report. There is a poster on this site who's read it. I'm married to someone who's read it numerous times. It's been reported on. There is nothing secretive in that report.

Without that "junta," you'd be living in the equivalent of Lawton on a larger scale.

[Just the facts]

Where is his flyer that said we need to build MAPS as promised?

Sorry, that was printed on flash paper.

[betts]

Where is his flyer that said we need to build MAPS as promised?

Don't worry. We've got a nice copy of it.

[Urban Pioneer]

One of our friends designed the mail flier. Another worked on a great deal of the copy. I personally art directed and supervised the Gazette ads. We have the originals! lol

Ed personally wrote quite a bit of that stuff. He personally approved the endorsement language specifically about his support of MAPS 3 to be finished as promised.

Obviously, this is a big reason that most of the people directly involved in the Ward 2 campaign have a problem with him. It is absolutely laughable that his campaign slogan asks that you, the voters, "trust him".

[Urban Pioneer]

And I should add, by contrast, Mayor Cornett has kept every promise, no matter how big nor small, to all of us.

[ljbab728]

The chamber junta thanks you for supporting their lapdog. Poor Mick, now he's going top have to serve another term he never wanted with an adult on the 'shoe asking all the adult questions.

All hail the chamber junta. Long live the chamber junta.

[zookeeper]

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I've posted this in a couple of threads, but it's not easy to search for. So, I'll re-post in all its glory...see 2nd column. I put a red box around it.

[Urban Pioneer]

Yeah, this one was full page and also the "On the path to progress ad". Plus the flier.

[soonerguru]

That's rich that he accuses Swinton of picking and choosing "which MAPS 3 projects to implement." Then he accused Swinton of wanting to delay (or implied abandon) the streetcar. THEN THAT'S WHAT HE DOES AS COUNCILMAN? This guy is a special kind of hypocrite.

[betts]

I believe that makes him both a liar and a hypocrite. No surprise since we've caught him lying or manipulating the truth multiple times already in his short tenure in office.

[Edgar]

This is dishonest. Humphreys never had anything to do with efforts to tear down the told dome or the Walnut AVENUE bridge.

perhaps you weren't around then. He most certainly vocally backed the bizarre zeal to raze the last reaming Gold Dome for a cider block CVS, and had a bit of a tt at council saying " we'd be stuck with this thing" referring to the historic walnut Creek Bridge. learned their lesson and razed the historic SFS before anyone could get organized. tragic when the chamber boys get control of our heritage. rem the mid-century space age hip monorail.

[Edgar]

I believe that makes him both a liar and a hypocrite. No surprise since we've caught him lying or manipulating the truth multiple times already in his short tenure in office.

or just perhaps he's more informed now and doesn't want the city to make a huge mistake that will hamstring the town finacially for ever.

[Edgar]

And I should add, by contrast, Mayor Cornett has kept every promise, no matter how big nor small, to all of us.

Public safety and fire suppression would disagree, as would the motorsports people. Cornett is a classic pr guy who spins it like you want to hear it.

[Bellaboo]

Shocking, a couple rich white chamber guys who profited nicely from their public service support this $ pit folly. thank God Humphreys ran for senate before he did real damage. Guy had a bizarre yen to raze the last existing Gold Dome. Had it in for the historic Walnut Creek bridge also. Go away sir.

Edgar,

See you came back trolling full speed ahead..... anything new ?

[Edgar]

I dont know if this has been discussed on this thread , yet, or not, but I believe even the monster CCs in Dallas and Denver both needed major convention center hotels. I believe in both cases the cities had to subsidize the cost of construction. I also believe the hotels in both cities are pretty successful.

Can anyone provide info on the new ones in Nashville and Omaha? I dont recall seeing a major hotel next to Omaha's.

Here's a good read mugo.

[mkjeeves]

Ed's statement on the flyer:

Maps 3 should be delivered as it was promised to voters

My memory is sketchy. Was it promised to voters the city would need to subsidize a hotel?

I'm not saying we shouldn't build the CC and the hotel. I voted for the CC. I might vote for it again when the time comes around. But I do have a hypothetical question, is there any point along the trajectory of a public project that is going off the rails where it would be appropriate to inform the voters and check in with them again, or should a city just say "they voted for this" and run it off into the ditch?

The consensus here seems to be no, they should run it off into the ditch no matter what. The citizens voted for it.

Maybe we should eliminate the petition process too. It's so inconvenient.

[David]

perhaps you weren't around then. He most certainly vocally backed the bizarre zeal to raze the last reaming Gold Dome for a cider block CVS, and had a bit of a tt at council saying " we'd be stuck with this thing" referring to the historic walnut Creek Bridge. learned their lesson and razed the historic SFS before anyone could get organized. tragic when the chamber boys get control of our heritage. rem the mid-century space age hip monorail.

Bwhahahahaha! Do you seriously not know who Steve is?

Let me give you a hint. Or maybe a couple more.