OKC Mayor Race 2014

[CaptDave]

I think the world of Mike McCarville... but I'd call it a suspension, not a pulling of support.

I agree. Hard to see how the endorsement might be "restored" in Jan though. But stranger things have happened I suppose.

[betts]

His most rabid supporters are sure he's being vilified by the "chamber goons" or they feel sorry for him. FOP probably not quite as gullible.

[CaptDave]

His most rabid supporters are sure he's being vilified by the "chamber goons" or they feel sorry for him. FOP probably not quite as gullible.

Fool me once.....

[zookeeper]

I think the world of Mike McCarville... but I'd call it a suspension, not a pulling of support.

Yes, I agree, it's more like a wait n see. On the subject of Mike McCarville, I've known him for years and received his McCarville Report 30 years ago when it was actually something you got in the mail. Mike is as decent a man as you'll find. I just wanted to say that.

[Steve]

I agree. Mike is a legend - someone I greatly admire.

[kevinpate]

I suspect the endorsement will just quietly fade away.
The incumbent's people would be over the line bonkers to do anything other than let it die a lonely death in the political swamp known as On Second Thought bog.

[sroberts24]

He just sent an email to all police officers saying all kinds of things & playing the victim. Also saying he and his wife will address the media tomorrow.

This guy is a real piece of work... He will try to manipulate everybody he can!

[David]

Woah. I can't imagine the FOP is going to like that, though I suppose it depends on how the email was worded.

[soonerguru]

He just sent an email to all police officers saying all kinds of things & playing the victim. Also saying he and his wife will address the media tomorrow.

This guy is a real piece of work... He will try to manipulate everybody he can!

What moron is running his campaign?

[soonerguru]

He just sent an email to all police officers saying all kinds of things & playing the victim. Also saying he and his wife will address the media tomorrow.

This guy is a real piece of work... He will try to manipulate everybody he can!

That is his "ex-wife," although he also refers to her as "coparent."

[Bellaboo]

Appears to be true.....

FOP Pulls Shadid Support, Cites ?Recent disclosures? | The McCarville Report

If this is true, then i'd donate to them again. I said I wouldn't when they endorsed ES, but if they've recanted...... then great.

[soonerguru]

I think the world of Mike McCarville... but I'd call it a suspension, not a pulling of support.

You are correct, but it's hard to imagine them suddenly re-endorsing him after this. It seems like a formality until they can get a full vote approving withdrawal of the endorsement.

[catch22]

How does ed shadid have access to the email addresses of all police officers? Did the union give him access to all of their email addresses?

[yukong]

It's going to be problematic for a union of law enforcement officers to continue their support for someone who has now admitted to repeated violations of the law. Regardless of whether he has cleaned up his life. My guess, if ES was applying for a job on the police force, these admissions would result in a denial of employment. Supporting someone for mayor who would not be deemed suitable for employment with their agency would be stupid. JMHO

[betts]

What moron is running his campaign?

I suspect he is. And his political IQ is clearly low.

Regardless, I don't know how a union associated with law enforcement can publicly support someone with his history and maintain any credibility.

[betts]

This is almost like getting the mayor of Toronto and the mayor of Cincinnati rolled into one neat little package. And in this case, two negatives do not make a positive.

[Urban Pioneer]

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[Urban Pioneer]

This is almost like getting the mayor of Toronto and the mayor of Cincinnati rolled into one neat little package. And in this case, two negatives do not make a positive.

And he isn't even elected!

[Bellaboo]

I don't think ES is being a liar about protecting his children. If the records are unsealed and it discloses him practicing while under the influence, he could end up with huge monetary losses.

[catch22]

I don't think ES is being a liar about protecting his children. If the records are unsealed and it discloses him practicing while under the influence, he could end up with huge monetary losses.

Not my problem. We are all accountable for our mistakes, if you could potentially be governing over me and the city I reside, I would care to know who you are.

[sroberts24]

It's going to be problematic for a union of law enforcement officers to continue their support for someone who has now admitted to repeated violations of the law. Regardless of whether he has cleaned up his life. My guess, if ES was applying for a job on the police force, these admissions would result in a denial of employment. Supporting someone for mayor who would not be deemed suitable for employment with their agency would be stupid. JMHO

This is exactly right! Your are lucky to be accepted if you have smoked a little weed. You wouldn't even get a chance to make it to the physical if you had done anything more. OKC PD is one of the best departments in the country, they invest a ton of money in each recruit, they have a background investigator do an extensive check on you. Not to mention the lie detector test, which I'm pretty confident that ES couldn't pass.

This has been my argument from day one, how can the FOP support a candidate who could not pass the background check to become an officer. Our officers deserve better out of our FOP than that. I promise you they endorsed ES because they are still bitter over MAPS3.

[Urban Pioneer]

I don't think ES is being a liar about protecting his children. If the records are unsealed and it discloses him practicing while under the influence, he could end up with huge monetary losses.

Then don't run.

[Urban Pioneer]

It's a "$18,000" a year job. If he were concerned about his children, he would not run.

[Bellaboo]

It's a "$18,000" a year job. If he were concerned about his children, he would not run.

That's what i think, if he was really concerned about his kids, then he would bow out and the records would stay shut. We'll see what kind of judgement he really has.

[Midtowner]

It's a "$18,000" a year job. If he were concerned about his children, he would not run.

In his defense, it doesn't show anywhere in the court record where he has asked to pay less child support because he chose to work less. Of course I can't see what his child support situation was from his decree, so I don't know that he even pays it at all, but arguably at least, there's something positive to be said for him there.