Talking to God boosts self-control and emotional stability, claims study

[Dubya61]

I wish people would quit using the sidewalk to convince me that there is a god. Or using loudhorns. Or knocking on my door. Or leaving tracks on my door. Or trying to change science curriculums. Or trying to build chapels at on our public land. Or building statues of biblical laws. Or using all the good radio frequencies on Sunday morning to broadcast the bad news. Or asking everyone to bow their heads while they say a prayer before sports games. Or asking my kids all the time where we go to church.

l stop when they stop. :-)

You're talking to the wrong crowd, then. You need to keep some chalk in your pocket and reply on the sidewalk, tell the person at your door, yell back at the loudhorn, keep a sign on your door saying you don't need the tract, vote against those who build chapels and statues, turn off your good radio, voice your disgust at the game, and ask the person talking to your kids which whorehouse they frequent?
I thought my desire was voiced in the proper forum for that which concerned me.
:-) (the equivalent of bless your heart, eh?)

[CuatrodeMayo]

Or move to Seattle

[kelroy55]

OK this may be but I've noticed that people who push their religious values either get upset or don't answer when you question God or the existance of God. For instance when they say they are opposed to abortion on religious values and you ask where in the Bible is talks about abortion they get all pissy or don't answer. There are some, even on here, that when talking about abortion all they can do is repeat that it's murder but never carry the discussion any further when asked. I find it odd when a person has such a strong conviction about something they either refuse to carry the conversation further or they have been brainwashed that something is bad but can't say why, ie.... sheeple. On the things I feel strongly about I can carry on a discussion why I feel that way and not just repeat the party line. Just thought I would toss this out, delete if necessary.

[HangryHippo]

I'm ready! :-) Besides, paying two rents is no fun.

Will you continue to visit OKCTalk once you're gone?

[CaptDave]

I'm ready! :-) Besides, paying two rents is no fun.

Quitter! (Says the retired guy.....)

Best wishes for you and your family in the great Northwest.

[Garin]

You either have faith that GOD is real and creates everything for everyone or you don't. It's not something you can buy or teach. We're all born with it some choose to accept it and some choose not to. I personally believe that GOD is real I see him in all that surrounds me each day both good and bad. Its not up to me to ask questions why when bad things happen I don't need an explanation he choose our journey and I accept that. I suspect there will be plenty of good and bad people in hell and might be surprised by who makes it to heaven. What i do wish is that all people that don't believe in GOD is to stop attacking those that do.

[Garin]

OK this may be but I've noticed that people who push their religious values either get upset or don't answer when you question God or the existance of God. For instance when they say they are opposed to abortion on religious values and you ask where in the Bible is talks about abortion they get all pissy or don't answer. There are some, even on here, that when talking about abortion all they can do is repeat that it's murder but never carry the discussion any further when asked. I find it odd when a person has such a strong conviction about something they either refuse to carry the conversation further or they have been brainwashed that something is bad but can't say why, ie.... sheeple. On the things I feel strongly about I can carry on a discussion why I feel that way and not just repeat the party line. Just thought I would toss this out, delete if necessary.

Its pretty simple its one of the ten commandments "Thou shall not murder"

[venture]

Should people that do believe in God then stop attacking those that don't? When you see people attempt to make public policy based on their faith that contradicts with others?

Why can't it go both ways?

[venture]

Overall impressed with the general civility of this discussion. I like it when we can get into these topics without people going crazy.

Something I've always wondered about. Is being called "God-fearing" really a good thing? Should you really fear your deity? Especially if they are one of love and peace?

Typically I find fear being a way to command power over someone who is weak and unable to control themselves. When someone has fear they become susceptible to influence from any manner of intent and I can't see that as a good thing.

[Prunepicker]

Like the "fear of the Lord is the begining of knowledge...".

I agree. Fear is never a good beginning for knowledge.

Fear of the Lord means Respect of the Lord.

[Prunepicker]

Should people that do believe in God then stop attacking those that
don't?

Who does that? Is there a specific church? Most importantly, if they're
supposed to be Christian you should be asking, "what are these people
doing that's Christian.

On the other hand people who don't believe in God certainly attack
those who do. OKC Talk has many of those.

[ThomPaine]

Should people that do believe in God then stop attacking those that don't? When you see people attempt to make public policy based on their faith that contradicts with others?

Why can't it go both ways?

What really gets me is how many folks who talk about Christianity here on this board have such a problem following the major tenant of Christianity - love your neighbor as yourself.

Seems like if you were a Christian, you would endeavor to show your beliefs by your actions.

[CaptDave]

What really gets me is how many folks who talk about Christianity here on this board have such a problem following the major tenant of Christianity - love your neighbor as yourself.

Seems like if you were a Christian, you would endeavor to show your beliefs by your actions.

Their reaction to Pope Francis' statements on predatory or unfettered capitalism and greed speaks volumes. They are less Christian and more "Paulian".

[Garin]

I'm a back slider. Just because we believe in GOD means to liberals that we can't hate or dislike sin.

[ThomPaine]

I'm a back slider. Just because we believe in GOD means to liberals that we can't hate or dislike sin.

Has nothing to do with it. Jesus laid down two pretty simple commandments. If you're a Christian, you should at least try to live up to them, or at the very least, not enjoy your disdain for them.

I know, I know, "we're not perfect, just forgiven." Got it.

Of course, I should apologize, you didn't say you were Christian, only that you believed in "GOD." Since it's all caps, that may be a different god than I'm used to...

[Chadanth]

You either have faith that GOD is real and creates everything for everyone or you don't. It's not something you can buy or teach. We're all born with it some choose to accept it and some choose not to. I personally believe that GOD is real I see him in all that surrounds me each day both good and bad. Its not up to me to ask questions why when bad things happen I don't need an explanation he choose our journey and I accept that. I suspect there will be plenty of good and bad people in hell and might be surprised by who makes it to heaven. What i do wish is that all people that don't believe in GOD is to stop attacking those that do.

I don't think anyone is born with faith in the supernatural, it's learned behavior.

[Garin]

I don't know how anyone can wake up each morning and look around at everything and not believe in GOD.

[Garin]

Has nothing to do with it. Jesus laid down two pretty simple commandments. If you're a Christian, you should at least try to live up to them, or at the very least, not enjoy your disdain for them.

I know, I know, "we're not perfect, just forgiven." Got it.

Of course, I should apologize, you didn't say you were Christian, only that you believed in "GOD." Since it's all caps, that may be a different god than I'm used to...

GOD in caps is just so everyone knows its GOD.....and not just any god......that I am referring to

[venture]

I don't know how anyone can wake up each morning and look around at everything and not believe in GOD.

I could understand that from the whole "unique" point of view that many held for generations. That was until we started to discover billions of other stars with orbiting planets and what...something like 50 billion Earth-like planets in just the Milky Way alone. The uniqueness of life on Earth will be completely dead in probably 20 years once we get on Mars and can get into the fossils there.

[ThomPaine]

GOD in caps is just so everyone knows its GOD.....and not just any god......that I am referring to

Got it. You're Jewish. (Or Muslim?)

[venture]

I want to say Jewish folks spell it G-D.

[Prunepicker]

I don't think anyone is born with faith in the supernatural, it's learned
behavior.

Correct. Nobody is born with faith. You learn to trust or you don't.

[Prunepicker]

I don't know how anyone can wake up each morning and look around at
everything and not believe in GOD.

There are many people in this world who honestly believe they are
being scientific or using logic and reason but they limit or reject
information based on prejudice which isn't scientific, logical or reasoned.

[Rover]

MUst be awfully depressing to believe this is all there is...that there is no purpose in your life other than to just be an animal and die.

[RadicalModerate]

Fear of the Lord means Respect of the Lord.

Not to take sides here, yet . . .
Truth Or Tradition - Translating phobos as fear or respect. How was it used in the biblical world?

Believe It or Forget It.
(in the end it is all about you and your choices)