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  1. #376

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    Yea I believe all major interstates are something along the lines of:

    Compressed and rolled dirt/ground.
    Stones/gravel bed compressed and rolled.
    Asphalt poured and rolled.
    Rebar structure with concrete pour.

    Next you should see somethign along the lines of this:


  2. #377

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    A square?

  3. #378

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    Quote Originally Posted by OKCisOK4me View Post
    A square?
    what?

  4. #379

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous. View Post
    what?
    When I was reading this thread earlier, on my phone, your pic was just an outline, lol. I see it now (on an actual computer).

  5. #380

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    It may be asphalt where it merges with i-235 since it wont be exacty in that same spot when the interchange is widen and rebuilt.

  6. #381

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    Quote Originally Posted by jn1780 View Post
    It may be asphalt where it merges with i-235 since it wont be exacty in that same spot when the interchange is widen and rebuilt.
    Like the temporary southbound ramp from NW 63rd that merges in with 235.

  7. #382

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    Quote Originally Posted by OKCisOK4me View Post
    Like the temporary southbound ramp from NW 63rd that merges in with 235.
    Correct. It will be temporary asphalt south from the Deep Fork Creek overpass to where it merges into southbound I235.

  8. #383

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    Quote Originally Posted by rte66man View Post
    Correct. It will be temporary asphalt south from the Deep Fork Creek overpass to where it merges into southbound I235.
    Yes, that wasn't a question. I was confirming the previous post ;-)

  9. #384

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    Has anyone heard an update on the Santa Fe bridge? It was included in the original proposal, but I haven't heard anything about it lately. Lackmeyer mentioned it Friday in his weekly chat, but wouldn't give details.

  10. #385

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebubble View Post
    Has anyone heard an update on the Santa Fe bridge? It was included in the original proposal, but I haven't heard anything about it lately. Lackmeyer mentioned it Friday in his weekly chat, but wouldn't give details.
    Probably just means you're going to have to wait til his piece comes out. Trust me, I'll be looking to read that article too. No clue why they took it out. To me, that's like wondering why NE 122nd doesn't go through between Kelly & Eastern or why Meridian doesn't go through between Memorial and NW 150th.

  11. #386

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    Probably because they didn't buy the right of way to put those roads through. The owner at the time probably wanted way more than the state/city/county thought it was worth.

  12. #387

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedogok View Post
    Probably because they didn't buy the right of way to put those roads through. The owner at the time probably wanted way more than the state/city/county thought it was worth.
    I had a conversation with one of the traffic engineers doing part of the design 6-10 months ago. She said that ODOT was being kind of neurotic about it and couldn't seem to make up their mind. She wasn't sure why, but theorized they wanted to save the money for something else.

  13. #388

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    Maybe they are saving for our first 4 stack interchange? lol

  14. #389

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoOkie View Post
    I had a conversation with one of the traffic engineers doing part of the design 6-10 months ago. She said that ODOT was being kind of neurotic about it and couldn't seem to make up their mind. She wasn't sure why, but theorized they wanted to save the money for something else.
    ODOT always needs money, but this interchange is federally funded. Including the SF bridge would make it federally funded, but this is the ONLY time to include it. I'm shocked that communities around western haven't been more up in arms. The traffic jams along western are primarily due to the fact there is no other route. A driver would have to take Penn or Kelly.

  15. #390

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebubble View Post
    ODOT always needs money, but this interchange is federally funded. Including the SF bridge would make it federally funded, but this is the ONLY time to include it. I'm shocked that communities around western haven't been more up in arms. The traffic jams along western are primarily due to the fact there is no other route. A driver would have to take Penn or Kelly.
    The way the area has developed if you are a resident going to a destination near enough to the eventual Santa Fe bridge to use it, you would probably be going over to Western or Kelly anyway. Trips further you would probably get on the interstate.

    Plus at least half of the people closest are in the apartments, which generally means less care about the long term infrastructure of the area

  16. #391

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman View Post
    The way the area has developed if you are a resident going to a destination near enough to the eventual Santa Fe bridge to use it, you would probably be going over to Western or Kelly anyway. Trips further you would probably get on the interstate.

    Plus at least half of the people closest are in the apartments, which generally means less care about the long term infrastructure of the area
    Everyone trying to get home in the snow last night thought it was a great idea to take western. It too me 30 minutes to get over I-44 on western. I and half of Edmond would have taken a Santa Fe bridge in a heartbeat.

  17. #392

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    I noticed yesterday that they've started dismantling the concrete barriers along EB I-44 approaching the new off-ramp. Must be getting close to completion.

  18. #393

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    Quote Originally Posted by BB37 View Post
    I noticed yesterday that they've started dismantling the concrete barriers along EB I-44 approaching the new off-ramp. Must be getting close to completion.
    Yes, I noticed that too.
    What phase is scheduled next?

  19. #394

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    Quote Originally Posted by OklahomaNick View Post
    Yes, I noticed that too.
    What phase is scheduled next?
    I would guess the Southeast quadrant but from ODOT's 8 year plan, it is not scheduled until 2015. I could see it getting moved up to this year and the Northeast quadrant being done in 2015.

  20. #395

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    Quote Originally Posted by OklahomaNick View Post
    Yes, I noticed that too.
    What phase is scheduled next?
    I was thinking that since the traffic will be transferring over to the new ramp, they'd be able to tear out the old eastbound to southbound ramp to make room for a wider and larger southbound to eastbound cloverleaf and then have room for the columns that will be used as supports for the eastbound to northbound flyover ramp (which they would only build out after working on the northeast quadrant which the flyover would connect to).

  21. #396

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    Quote Originally Posted by warreng88 View Post
    I would guess the Southeast quadrant but from ODOT's 8 year plan, it is not scheduled until 2015. I could see it getting moved up to this year and the Northeast quadrant being done in 2015.
    The 50th St and railroad bridges over I-235 are next. After that, the widening of I-235 around 50th street is up.

  22. #397

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    I still think Odot needs to do it the Texas/Californian way, especially with cheap interest rates right now. This whole thing could be done by the end of the year. I've wondered what the cost would be if they finished this project in 12 months, doing multiple sections at once. Perhaps the city of Edmond should chip in a few million since this is pretty much "the main Edmond highway" from downtown OKC, this wont probably happen though, completion will be 2018 or so.

  23. #398

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    I agree. I really wish ODOT would just borrow money. Things would get done so much faster. The 2.7 billion dollar LBJ project will paid off in 5 years.

  24. #399

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    New Year, New Ramp; I-44 Ramp Project to open Saturday months ahead of schedule | KFOR.com

    The new eastbound I-44 ramp to southbound I-235 is scheduled to open Saturday, nearly three months ahead of schedule.
    In addition, the eastbound I-44 on-ramp from Western Ave. which had been closed as part of the project, will reopen Saturday also.

  25. #400

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    Why is a picture of I-40 EB in an article about the I-44 / I-235 interchange?

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