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  1. #1501

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    Quote Originally Posted by betts View Post
    And frankly "politics as usual" has created a total turnaround in local and national attitude towards Oklahoma City.
    When "the usual" has been so beneficial what is the incentive to change? OKC isn't perfect and there are some prevailing attitudes I hope change, but Mayor Cornett is not symptomatic of those issues. If anything, he has done quite a bit to dispel a lot of the negative impression much of the country has of OKC, only to have people in state government open their mouths and reinforce stereotypes.

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    I earnestly hope -- and expect -- the voters are going to have a real 360 degree view of Ed Shadid, what he represents, what he misrepresents, and exactly the kind of character and leadership style he would bring to this city, and I expect the voters will overwhelmingly reelect Mick Cornett.

  3. #1503

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    You guys have nothing to worry about Mick will be re-elected. The only thing that would keep that from happening is if he were to commit some kind of heinous crime. That is not going to happen. Mick and the Oklahoma City Council are the role model for how government should operate this country (bipartisan guided by common sense).

  4. #1504

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    Quote Originally Posted by krisb View Post
    Have a look. Shadid supporters seem to understand that this election is more about human values than politics as usual.

    http://www.ted.com/talks/brene_brown...erability.html
    Hey Krisb, congrats on your most recent off the wall post. Way to once again post a one liner that has nothing to do with what Shadid will do better than Cornett and follow it up with a link that again has nothing to do with any issue relevant to this election.

    Keep it up, I think you might be getting closer... or not, I can't really tell.

  5. #1505

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWCGuy View Post
    You guys have nothing to worry about Mick will be re-elected. The only thing that would keep that from happening is if he were to commit some kind of heinous crime. That is not going to happen. Mick and the Oklahoma City Council are the role model for how government should operate this country (bipartisan guided by common sense).
    Not worrying ends with people being ambivalent about voting. Shadid has a large backing of very passionate and persistent voters and "evangelists" Assuming that Cornett is going to walk away with this race could end up being a very costly mistake.

    Unless the numbers are astronomical (well over 50k voters), Cornett will not just "walk away" with this thing.

    He won the last election with only 14k votes, and turnout was less than 25k. I wouldn't be surprised if Shadid gets close to 25k himself…so Cornett needs supporters to actually go out and vote for the dude…and I hope that all the major businesses are letting their employees know that it is important for this city to get this election right.

  6. #1506

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    I agree.

  7. #1507

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    This wasn't the best weekend to go door to door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laramie View Post
    Strong supporters of Dr. Ed Shadid are going to ignore any factual information you supply them about him. You mentioned that they invited you over to attend an upcoming meeting with Ed as the speaker? You absolutely refused their invitation. Do you honestly think that they are going to be swayed by facts and figures you supply them about Dr. Shadid?

    Keep the good relationship you have with your neighbor, just avoid conversational topics about relationships, religions & politics.

    Mick Cornett will repeat as mayor of Oklahoma City...
    Isn't Dr Shadid's well researched factual information what makes the boys uncomfortable and willing to forever alter horseshoe protocol when his flight got cancelled. You know Mick thought that divine intervention.

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    Kind of like Ed making sure Meg would recuse herself for the streetcar vote and then trying to strong-arm another council member in an attempt to subvert the will of his constituents? People in glass houses...

    He already thinks his ward 2 constituents aren't important. What makes anyone think he will act differently as mayor?

  10. #1510

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Isn't Dr Shadid's well researched factual information what makes the boys uncomfortable and willing to forever alter horseshoe protocol when his flight got cancelled. You know Mick thought that divine intervention.
    As in the fact not only does he lie about the issues, he's a flip flopper on his stance on MAPS..... the one thing that's saved our citys bacon.

    Quit trolling Edgar......

  11. #1511

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    Edgar, did David Glover give you that insight?

    Real leaders build coalitions so that their "well researched factual information" actually influences a vote. If there had been a snowball's chance in hell that Ed may have had something of a coalition built to make the vote competitive, then you/Ed might have my sympathy.

    But as the streetcar vote indicates, even with the new council members, Ed is currently irrelevant when it comes to voting matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Isn't Dr Shadid's well researched factual information what makes the boys uncomfortable and willing to forever alter horseshoe protocol when his flight got cancelled. You know Mick thought that divine intervention.
    Can I see an example of this information? What well-researched information has he presented? Please provide evidence to back up your assertions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midtowner View Post
    Can I see an example of this information? What well-researched information has he presented? Please provide evidence to back up your assertions.
    The Doctor took out a full page in the Gazette after Mick did him dirty. You didn't read it? And you're an informed voter?

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    The Doctor? LOL. That's almost self parody.

    If Shadid had been mayor, we would have NO MAPS 3, NO CONTINENTAL HQ, NO OKC THUNDER. The list goes on and on. He's an anti-MAPS kook who goes back on his campaign promises. Only people who do NO RESEARCH INTO THE FACTS could support this not-nice, disloyal, conniving, anarchistic, backstabbing, no-plan fraud. He is a fraud, and if he were to somehow fall backwards into winning this by some divine intervention, he would manage to screw up all the momentum this city has.

    He should focus on his yammering talkfests that produce no plans as he seeks his spiritual awakening at OKC taxpayers' expense. He would be a worthless choice for mayor.

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    This is what I want to hear from krisb and Edgar: what are Ed's plans? What does he want to accomplish and how is he going to accomplish it? Mick has a track record of accomplishments, Ed does not. And no, I do not consider "transparency in government" an accomplishment. He wants to hire more police and firefighters? Where is the money going to come from? He is going to focus more on neighborhoods and not downtown? What is he going to do and where is the money going to come from?

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    Doug Dawgz Blog: March 1 City Council Election Returns & Ward 2 Runoff

    Here are all of Shadid's ads from the last election. I was a huge supporter of his, but reading his ads, he doesn't seem to be in favor of following a lot of his own campaign rhetoric.

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    Posts by Ed Shadid In His Facebook Page

    MAPS3 is a bond with the voters. It must be implemented in its entirety with transparency and with the maximum public deliberation.



    And what did Ed do ? He tried his best to kill the MAPS3 Streetcar.......... What a contradiction.... and there is a few posters on here that just don't get it.

  18. #1518

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    The Doctor took out a full page in the Gazette after Mick did him dirty. You didn't read it? And you're an informed voter?
    After "the Doctor" did us dirty, I thought about taking out a full page ad too, and might yet if he keeps forgetting to tell the truth.

  19. #1519

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    The Doctor took out a full page in the Gazette after Mick did him dirty. You didn't read it? And you're an informed voter?
    Again, Glover by proxy???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midtowner View Post
    Doug Dawgz Blog: March 1 City Council Election Returns & Ward 2 Runoff

    Here are all of Shadid's ads from the last election. I was a huge supporter of his, but reading his ads, he doesn't seem to be in favor of following a lot of his own campaign rhetoric.
    Of everything on Doug's blog page, comparing this small section to Dr Shadid's actions after the election should be enough for most people to decide whether this is indicative of a person who has earned the trust of the citizens of OKC.

    "Posts by Ed Shadid In His Facebook Page

    MAPS3 is a bond with the voters. It must be implemented in its entirety with transparency and with the maximum public deliberation. Mr. Swinton risks the legitimacy of future referendums by essentially eliminating the rail component. We do not get to pick and choose which projects we (or our unknown financial sponsors) want to move forward.

    Thought MAPS 3 guaranteed light rail transit? Think again. Delay means losing $60-120 million in federal matching funds and making the project cost prohibitive by not coordinating with Project 180. Study the candidates comments closely."

    OK, let's do that.

    Shadid said he is not anti-MAPS as other candidates supported by firefighters have been labeled.
    “I support the implementation of all aspects of MAPS 3 as promised to the voters with maximum openness, transparency and public deliberation,” he said."

    Shadid said the only thing he has made clear at dozens of neighborhood meetings and candidate forums is he completely supports MAPS 3.
    “I'm for implementation of all of the MAPS 3 projects with maximum openness, transparency, public deliberation, and I consider it a bond with the voters,” he said. “I've never said anything else.”

    TrustED? The facts make that difficult. I harbor no personal animus toward Dr Shadid, but it is very difficult to reconcile his actions with his rhetoric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptDave View Post
    Of everything on Doug's blog page, comparing this small section to Dr Shadid's actions after the election should be enough for most people to decide whether this is indicative of a person who has earned the trust of the citizens of OKC.

    "Posts by Ed Shadid In His Facebook Page

    MAPS3 is a bond with the voters. It must be implemented in its entirety with transparency and with the maximum public deliberation. Mr. Swinton risks the legitimacy of future referendums by essentially eliminating the rail component. We do not get to pick and choose which projects we (or our unknown financial sponsors) want to move forward.

    Thought MAPS 3 guaranteed light rail transit? Think again. Delay means losing $60-120 million in federal matching funds and making the project cost prohibitive by not coordinating with Project 180. Study the candidates comments closely."

    OK, let's do that.

    Shadid said he is not anti-MAPS as other candidates supported by firefighters have been labeled.
    “I support the implementation of all aspects of MAPS 3 as promised to the voters with maximum openness, transparency and public deliberation,” he said."

    Shadid said the only thing he has made clear at dozens of neighborhood meetings and candidate forums is he completely supports MAPS 3.
    “I'm for implementation of all of the MAPS 3 projects with maximum openness, transparency, public deliberation, and I consider it a bond with the voters,” he said. “I've never said anything else.”

    TrustED? The facts make that difficult. I harbor no personal animus toward Dr Shadid, but it is very difficult to reconcile his actions with his rhetoric.
    I will have to disagree with you there. I DO hold personal animus against Shadid because he is a slimy weasel who lied to my face. I'm a hardcore progressive voter, but I'm not a masochistic idiot, so I have learned the hard way not to trust this charlatan. He may seem nice, but he will lie to your face and stab you in the back. He is NOT a nice guy.

    There is a surprising number of people who know him well, who worked to get him elected to Council, who volunteered to knock on doors for him, who are now working for Mick Cornett. Ask yourself what that means. The people who know him best, want him least. That should speak volumes. This guy is REALLY BAD NEWS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerguru View Post
    There is a surprising number of people who know him well, who worked to get him elected to Council, who volunteered to knock on doors for him, who are now working for Mick Cornett. Ask yourself what that means. The people who know him best, want him least. That should speak volumes. This guy is REALLY BAD NEWS.
    That is definitely something for voters to consider. It is another indication the Dr's actions do not match his promises and campaign pledges. That should be enough for most people to make up their mind even if they do not consider the progress OKC has made while Mayor Cornett has been in office.

  23. #1523

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerguru View Post
    There is a surprising number of people who know him well, who worked to get him elected to Council, who volunteered to knock on doors for him, who are now working for Mick Cornett. Ask yourself what that means. The people who know him best, want him least. That should speak volumes. This guy is REALLY BAD NEWS.
    This is really all you need to know and hear about Shadid.

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    The Doctor is just being the adult in the room and asking the obvious questions that should have been long ago asked.
    The cc is going to need a hotel to be viable and will still be a $ pit, as will the streetcar and there was never going to be federal funds for the project. The original MAPS projects a great civic undertaking- MAPSII highjacked by special interests to get taxpayers to build them a cc. Will our barons cover the operating deficits that

  25. #1525

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    The cc is going to need a hotel to be viable and will still be a $ pit, as will the streetcar and there was never going to be federal funds for the project.
    Please don't tell me this is in reference to the streetcar...

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