Is the highway patrol really needed?

[RadicalModerate]

Back to the original topic . . . My answer is Yes.
The OHP--if nothing else--sets a "standard" that is a good model for all law enforcement officers.
Is it/are they perfect? Of course not.
That doesn't lessen the need for an institution like that.

[Plutonic Panda]

You can believe whatever you want. To educate your ignorance of the reality of the matter ask an OKC officer the next time you have contact with one about how many tickets they and their partners write. If all you know is what you read you know very little truth.

sure

[kevinpate]

I have no problem believing that overall fewer tickets are being written in some areas. Warnings are also way down ... not that I am complaining mind you.

[Mel]

I say yes. I like to road trip a lot and I've been stopped a few times but never ticketed. I've been helped a few times by the OHP, mostly with flat tires. I can't move too well sometimes. they get a thumbs up from me.

[Jersey Boss]

I wonder if the OP earned a ticket and that prompted the thread.

[Garin]

Nope no ticket just tired of sheriffs and OCPD patrolling the highways when we have OHP to do so.

[Chadanth]

Nope no ticket just tired of sheriffs and OCPD patrolling the highways when we have OHP to do so.

Revenue grab.

[Plutonic Panda]

It seems to me the Sheriffs is actually pulling back on their highway ticketing ops. For a long time, there used to be a speed trap on the I44/I35 interchange and they have stopped that. I wonder if they got in trouble or something. Occasionally I will see them there, but they used to be there nearly every day.

[Mel]

If safety reasons won't slow you down, financial reasons will. Tickets are getting expensive. If everybody, all the sudden, obeyed all traffic laws a lot of municipalities would have budget problems within months. Not going to happen though.

[Jeepnokc]

It seems to me the Sheriffs is actually pulling back on their highway ticketing ops. For a long time, there used to be a speed trap on the I44/I35 interchange and they have stopped that. I wonder if they got in trouble or something. Occasionally I will see them there, but they used to be there nearly every day.

That really wasn't a speed trap but drug enforcement looking for possible drug traffickers.

[Buffalo Bill]

That really wasn't a speed trap but drug enforcement looking for possible drug traffickers.

Correct. It's similar to the drug interdiction task force west of El Reno on I-40.

Highway Drug Interdiction & Seizure | Oklahoma Criminal Lawyers and Attorneys | Wyatt Law Office

[Plutonic Panda]

That really wasn't a speed trap but drug enforcement looking for possible drug traffickers.

I actually kind of thought about that on the account of I have passed them doing 75-80 before alongside with others and they haven't pulled me over for it, I've have seen others doing only 5 over, and they get. I wonder how they profile them out.

Also, do you have any idea why they stopped?

[RadicalModerate]

I actually kind of thought about that on the account of I have passed them doing 75-80 before alongside with others and they haven't pulled me over for it, I've have seen others doing only 5 over, and they get. I wonder how they profile them out.

Also, do you have any idea why they stopped?

Perhaps, if you slowed down from 90 mph to parking/walking speed and strolled up to a trooper, in a non confrontational manner, in conjunction with a traffic stop (not your own), you could get a definitive answer beyond, "Move Along. Ain't Nothin' t' See Here"?

Don't try that with "Local Police" on account of it ain't likely to work.

[Plutonic Panda]

Perhaps, if you slowed down from 90 mph to parking/walking speed and strolled up to a trooper, in a non confrontational manner, in conjunction with a traffic stop (not your own), you could get a definitive answer beyond, "Move Along. Ain't Nothin' t' See Here"?

Don't try that with "Local Police" on account of it ain't likely to work.

90 MPH in a 70MPH? If I were a cop and saw you doing that, you'd be getting pulled over. Either way, traffic in this area generally flows 70-80MPH regardless of the posted speed limit of 60MPH through this interchange and my comment was geared towards how they determine whom to pull over. I'm sure there is an obvious answer to that.

My first guess would be out of state tags. Second alarm would a visible suspicious individual. Third or perhaps second would be an unusual modified body part on an older model car. I know some of the biggest smuggling vehicles would likely be Caddy Escalade, Chevy Avalanche, Chevy Tahoe, and Ford Escape is what I've noticed pulled over on the side of the highway with a string of cop cars behind them.

BTW- may I have the honor in attempting to decipher this?

Perhaps, if you slowed down from 90 mph to parking/walking speed and strolled up to a trooper, in a non confrontational manner, in conjunction with a traffic stop (not your own), you could get a definitive answer beyond, "Move Along. Ain't Nothin' t' See Here"?

I'll just assume your answer is going to be yes

Are assuming that if I, somehow, reduced my vehicles timing with any given object in any relative distance from me, that I could visually see, and perhaps enjoy, a trooper currently(in the future) engaged in a-but not limited to- a traffic stop, in which I could then ask him why the Oklahoma County Sheriffs department(which is a separate division of law enforcement) stopped trying to catch a lawless fiends about. . . Did I get that right?

As far as trying that with the local po(po), do you not think they would like it?

[Goon]

I actually kind of thought about that on the account of I have passed them doing 75-80 before alongside with others and they haven't pulled me over for it, I've have seen others doing only 5 over, and they get. I wonder how they profile them out.

Also, do you have any idea why they stopped?

There are a lot of factors that go in to the "profile" of the person pulled over (none of which BTW has to do with race, or socio-economic standing). Car type, driver behavior when passing the agent/officer, vehicle makeup...all different factors.

Unlike the hit piece linked from the defense attorney, not all stops are predicated on trying to "take your money" or put you in jail. These guys are highly successful at what they do, and generally the first part of the stop (the warning part) is the only part most drivers experience. It's a lot harder to get to the second part (the voluntary stop/search) than just answering the wrong questions, a lot more factors in.

Also, they don't seize ANY amount of money. the question is generally "do you have more than $10,000?" For those that are unaware, depositing or withdrawing 10k or more at a time triggers the bank to file an IRS form that traces the transaction for suspected structuring/money lanudering. Same if you tried to pass customs with that kind of cash. If you do have it and have a good reason, you are asked to provide proof the money is yours and why you possess it. Those who have it "seized" are asked to sign a disclaimer form stating the money is not theirs (ex: agent finds 20k in hidden compartment. Driver says he has no idea it was there, signs form disclaiming the money and drives away).

Just like in any profession, for every 5 good interdiction agents you have the one who likes to do anal cavity searches and tear apart cars for no good reason. But we hate that guy just as much (if not more) than the banker who hates Bernie Madoff for what he's done to that profession.

[Oh GAWD the Smell!]

If safety reasons won't slow you down, financial reasons will. Tickets are getting expensive. If everybody, all the sudden, obeyed all traffic laws a lot of municipalities would have budget problems within months. Not going to happen though.

Except in Moore. They have that crap down to a revenue-raising science. Most speeding tickets are cheap and don't go on your record. I mean like $50 for a speeding ticket cheap (compared to what...Almost $200 for the same violation in OK county?). No incentive to slow down = many MANY more tickets given. My wife lived there for years before we were married and probably amassed a dozen tickets in two years. She got ONE out east here. It was $180 or so for 6 over. She slowed her arse down