What happened to NW OKC?

[Spartan]

Classen SAS is not "in the hood". Gatewood UCD is a wonderful neighborhood with a great amenity in the Plaza District. I'm raising my family here.

Anyone who declares that Classen SAS is in the hood should first see if they can afford a new home across the street...lol

[Jim Kyle]

Are you being serious or sarcastic? Surely not serious. If so, this is akin to not flying through Detroit.

I'm serious, although it might be only a result of intense competition on the part of the mass media, that makes the run-up to the war with Spain 110 years ago seem tame by comparison. However TPTB at the DHS and TSA certainly have been working overtime to keep the populace fearful, and where there's so much excrement I tend to suspect a pony somewhere in the vicinity...

A historian from whom I took several college courses back in the 50s confidently predicted we would have a second Civil War by 1990, based on the growing divide between the "haves" and "have-nots." He didn't live to see his prediction fail, and I'm quite glad that it did fail -- but the driving forces he saw some 60 years ago are still there, and we seem to have a totally dysfunctional federal government at the present time. In fact, that very lack of functionality seems to be the strongest argument against my observation!

[Just the facts]

Forget what happened to NW OKC, what the hell happened to this thread?

[Plutonic Panda]

I'm just going to say this, if there is one place you should NOT drive around after 10pm, it is downtown Houston. The majority of it dies off after 10-11pm and it gets bad, REAL FAST! Trust me on this one.

[Mel]

I went up that way today and the NW portion of OKC was still there.

[bluedogok]

I'm just going to say this, if there is one place you should NOT drive around after 10pm, it is downtown Houston. The majority of it dies off after 10-11pm and it gets bad, REAL FAST! Trust me on this one.

I have walked around there about that time after a baseball game and never felt anything strange. Went and found some pizza and waled back to the Magnolia.

The only place that I have been kind of creeped out was at a cell site in Cleveland east of downtown (Deadmans curve area) and that was during the day. Nothing happened, just had a weird feeling about the place, just sort of remote and somewhat hidden, next to the tracks and I-90. No issues with the rest of the Cleveland metro area.

[Teo9969]

I'm just going to say this, if there is one place you should NOT drive around after 10pm, it is downtown Houston. The majority of it dies off after 10-11pm and it gets bad, REAL FAST! Trust me on this one.

You should probably define "downtown"...because I've never even been remotely worried when I've been in downtown Houston past 10PM.

[zookeeper]

Downtown Houston? What about Northwest Oklahoma City? The subject of this thread! Any volunteers to show how safe the following neighborhoods are?

All you'd need to do is one of the below after dark:

1. Take a walk down 23rd street from Rockwell to Meridian and back.
2. Take a walk down 10th street from Meridian to Council and back.
3. Take a walk down Wilshire Blvd. and go south on Lyrewood Lane to 63rd and back
4. Take a nice Sunday evening stroll down Wilshire, head north on Western and walk to 122nd and back.

Forget walking in downtown Houston after dark. Any takers for the life threatening experiment above?

[Achilleslastand]

Downtown Houston? What about Northwest Oklahoma City? The subject of this thread! Any volunteers to show how safe the following neighborhoods are?

All you'd need to do is one of the below after dark:

1. Take a walk down 23rd street from Rockwell to Meridian and back.
2. Take a walk down 10th street from Meridian to Council and back.
3. Take a walk down Wilshire Blvd. and go south on Lyrewood Lane to 63rd and back
4. Take a nice Sunday evening stroll down Wilshire, head north on Western and walk to 122nd and back.

Forget walking in downtown Houston after dark. Any takers for the life threatening experiment above?

Whats the prize?

[bradh]

3. Take a walk down Wilshire Blvd. and go south on Lyrewood Lane to 63rd and back

This is the roughest one you posted

[tomokc]

Downtown Houston? What about Northwest Oklahoma City? The subject of this thread! Any volunteers to show how safe the following neighborhoods are?

All you'd need to do is one of the below after dark:

1. Take a walk down 23rd street from Rockwell to Meridian and back.
2. Take a walk down 10th street from Meridian to Council and back.
3. Take a walk down Wilshire Blvd. and go south on Lyrewood Lane to 63rd and back
4. Take a nice Sunday evening stroll down Wilshire, head north on Western and walk to 122nd and back.

Forget walking in downtown Houston after dark. Any takers for the life threatening experiment above?

Sounds like a plan for the next OKCTalk meetup. Who can suggest a really rough biker bar for drinks afterwards?

[mkjeeves]

Biker bar? I thought most bikers these days were dentists?

Anyway, there's plenty more sketchy areas in OKC I wouldn't walk through at night than what you have listed.

Oklahoma City crime rates and statistics - NeighborhoodScout

Much of the inner city doesn't fair that well, especially compared to NW OKC.

[mkjeeves]

Maybe you could rattle the chains on this place and ask for a beer. I believe some bikers used to hang out there and it's a lovely neighborhood.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=1940+...m5nitW5qaXl_mQ

[adaniel]

I'm just going to say this, if there is one place you should NOT drive around after 10pm, it is downtown Houston. The majority of it dies off after 10-11pm and it gets bad, REAL FAST! Trust me on this one.

Are you referring to the Central Business District? Because I have walked by myself through there and it was no big deal. Just a couple of homeless bums, but nothing worse than what you would see in OKC.

[RadicalModerate]

Sounds like a plan for the next OKCTalk meetup. Who can suggest a really rough biker bar for drinks afterwards?

Since Tricky Dick's, Bosco's, Sinbad's and any of the ever changing cluster of extra low-life "Entertainment Venues" at 10th and MacArthur aren't around anymore, I really don't have any good suggestions . . . (as usual)

[mkjeeves]

Since Tricky Dick's, Bosco's, Sinbad's and any of the ever changing cluster of extra low-life "Entertainment Venues" at 10th and MacArthur aren't around anymore, I really don't have any good suggestions . . . (as usual)

Isn't that corner owned by someone named Shadid? If so, is there any family ties with the other Shadid?

As far as biker bars go, remember the Draught Board somewhere on May across the street from about where Lynn Hickey was?

The former Lamplighter on 10th street is now Margarita Island or somesuch and seems to draw a crowd along with some bikes. They don't look like 1% bikers.

[SouthsideSooner]

Biker bar? I thought most bikers these days were dentists?

Anyway, there's plenty more sketchy areas in OKC I wouldn't walk through at night than what you have listed.

Oklahoma City crime rates and statistics - NeighborhoodScout

Much of the inner city doesn't fair that well, especially compared to NW OKC.

Interesting map... I'd like to see one that seperates violent crime and property crime...

I thought it was interesting that one of the worst areas highlighted is S.W 74th and May. Oklahoma City Community College is on the SW corner of that intersection and although there are some sketchy apartment complexes nearby, I don't think many of us in proximity to that area consider it to be unsafe...

I'm not really afraid of any area of OKC but it was also interesting that when scrolling down that page, OKC is listed as safer than only 4% of cities in the U.S...

[Rover]

Isn't that corner owned by someone named Shadid? If so, is there any family ties with the other Shadid?

Yes, they are closely related.

[Plutonic Panda]

Are you referring to the Central Business District? Because I have walked by myself through there and it was no big deal. Just a couple of homeless bums, but nothing worse than what you would see in OKC.

I will search on Google maps and find out where exactly I was. I've been there twice, late at night and had really bad experiences.

[Teo9969]

Downtown Houston? What about Northwest Oklahoma City? The subject of this thread! Any volunteers to show how safe the following neighborhoods are?

All you'd need to do is one of the below after dark:

1. Take a walk down 23rd street from Rockwell to Meridian and back.
2. Take a walk down 10th street from Meridian to Council and back.
3. Take a walk down Wilshire Blvd. and go south on Lyrewood Lane to 63rd and back
4. Take a nice Sunday evening stroll down Wilshire, head north on Western and walk to 122nd and back.

Forget walking in downtown Houston after dark. Any takers for the life threatening experiment above?

Try again...

[Teo9969]

That really could be made into a fun bet though.

The two sides:

1. We'll get robbed/mugged
2. We won't get robbed/mugged

The bet:

Two people take a walk. The person who takes position 1 carries the agreed upon bet amount in their pocket. The person who takes position 2 leaves twice the same amount in the car which is parked in a secure location.

If the 2 are not robbed/mugged, then the money in Better 1's pocket goes to Better 2's. If they are robbed/mugged, person 1 gives double the amount to person 2, half for the reimbursement and half for the won bet.

[zookeeper]

Try again...

Why the big deal about walking? I based my post on Bluedog's post:
http://www.okctalk.com/ask-anything-...tml#post695725

[Bunty]

I'm just going to say this, if there is one place you should NOT drive around after 10pm, it is downtown Houston. The majority of it dies off after 10-11pm and it gets bad, REAL FAST! Trust me on this one.

You mean derelicts and alcoholics start wondering around asking for your money at stop lights and won't take no for an answer?

[RadicalModerate]

Downtown Houston? What about Northwest Oklahoma City? The subject of this thread! Any volunteers to show how safe the following neighborhoods are?

All you'd need to do is one of the below after dark:

1. Take a walk down 23rd street from Rockwell to Meridian and back.
2. Take a walk down 10th street from Meridian to Council and back.
3. Take a walk down Wilshire Blvd. and go south on Lyrewood Lane to 63rd and back
4. Take a nice Sunday evening stroll down Wilshire, head north on Western and walk to 122nd and back.

Forget walking in downtown Houston after dark. Any takers for the life threatening experiment above?

[Teo9969]

Why the big deal about walking? I based my post on Bluedog's post:
http://www.okctalk.com/ask-anything-...tml#post695725

Bluedog's post was a casual and tertiary reply to something Plu Pan said (and mainly because Plu Pan didn't define what he meant by downtown)

Plu Pan, however, said not to *drive* through downtown houston, and everyone in this thread is talking about the silliness of being afraid to *drive* through an area. It's a whole different ball game if you're talking about walking through rough neighborhoods.