Brain scans find porn addiction

[Bunty]

I find it peculiar that people are more concerned with demographics and
promoting self-appointed superiority than the problem of pornography.

If only we'd put that much time into finding a solution instead of building
ourselves up.

Puke.

You should be more thankful that availability of plenty of porn on the Internet has discouraged old fashioned porn stores from making a comeback in Oklahoma, assuming current law would permit it.

[kelroy55]

I find it peculiar that people are more concerned with demographics and
promoting self-appointed superiority than the problem of pornography.

If only we'd put that much time into finding a solution instead of building
ourselves up.

Puke.

If a person doesn't like R or X rated material then don't watch it. Telling people they can't do something that is legal is just "self-appointed superiority"

[Just the facts]

I think PP was falling into the 'its an addiction' ploy. Its not an addiction. There is nothing to cure them from.

[jmpokc1957]

Aw what the heck, I'll throw my 2 cents into the fray here.

Nothing to cure them from? Tell that to those who have lost money, jobs and marriages due to their inability to stop viewing porn.

I have taught drug/alcohol recovery at the Washington County( Oregon ) jail for some years now and I find that compulsive viewing of pornography is a common issue. Like most addictions, not only is it a waste of time and resources, but it's a rip off in the sense that it rarely delivers what it seems to promise.

One of the most tragic outcomes is with individuals who are unable to separate fantasy from reality. They don't realize they are simply seeing actors on a stage who are being paid for their performance, but rather they seem to think this is socially acceptable and going on all around them. Some of them will then go out to rape children.

To sum it up, in my opinion, some of the things we view as "take it or leave it" have consequences far beyond what we would have imagined.

The rain has started in Oregon. Drying to begin in June, maybe.

Mike

[Midtowner]

I think PP was falling into the 'its an addiction' ploy. Its not an addiction. There is nothing to cure them from.

So.. different strokes for different folks?

[Just the facts]

Nothing to cure them from? Tell that to those who have lost money, jobs and marriages due to their inability to stop viewing porn.

I didn't say it didn't have consequences or that there are not negative outcomes resulting from bad choices, even among those who seem to have a misplaced sense of risk/reward - but it is not an addiction. There isn't a dependency and if someone is a sexual deviant, and porn is just an outlet for that, that isn't addiction either.

But like I said earlier, the study will go a long ways towards making everyone a victim of something so nothing is anyone's fault. Are the 'porn addicted' going to get free internet access now and free access to a porn site? I mean, if we can give taxpayer funded needles to drug addicts, can't we make sure porn addicts get access to their porn?

[kevinpate]

Worthy of a rimshot if ever anything was.

[Just the facts]

Worthy of a rimshot if ever anything was.

Pun intended?

[venture]

General user advisory and NSFW and such. Common sense.

[Bunty]

One of the most tragic outcomes is with individuals who are unable to separate fantasy from reality. They don't realize they are simply seeing actors on a stage who are being paid for their performance, but rather they seem to think this is socially acceptable and going on all around them. Some of them will then go out to rape children.

To sum it up, in my opinion, some of the things we view as "take it or leave it" have consequences far beyond what we would have imagined.

Mike

In other words, guys viewing porn showing only adults in it can make some of them go out and find children to rape? But to look at it more realistically porn should work well for women from getting annoyed less from homely guys wanting real sex. Porn is the nearest thing they're likely to get to real sex.

[Mel]

I'll never be able to look at a muppet the same way ever again.

[Just the facts]

One of the most tragic outcomes is with individuals who are unable to separate fantasy from reality. They don't realize they are simply seeing actors on a stage who are being paid for their performance, but rather they seem to think this is socially acceptable and going on all around them. Some of them will then go out to rape children.

When a person can't distinguish between realty and fantasy that would make them mentally ill in my book. I have a whole thread on it.

Bunty, they go after the children because they are an easy target, not necessarily because they initially attracted to children.

[Bunty]

When a person can't distinguish between realty and fantasy that would make them mentally ill in my book. I have a whole thread on it.

Bunty, they go after the children because they are an easy target, not necessarily because they initially attracted to children.

That doesn't make much sense, because you gotta be a pedophile to be attracted to children. Don't see how adult porn would trigger a desire to go sexually attack children. It looks like it would be more of a turn OFF. What makes more sense is that rapes against women supposedly went down after the porn shops were closed in OKC decades ago. Never heard how it related to sexual attacks on children, if anything.

[Bunty]

One of the most tragic outcomes is with individuals who are unable to separate fantasy from reality. They don't realize they are simply seeing actors on a stage who are being paid for their performance, but rather they seem to think this is socially acceptable and going on all around them. Some of them will then go out to rape children.

Mike

Weren't they viewing child porn, the ones who had sex with children? If so, a good reason why child porn should continue to be banned.

[RadicalModerate]

General user advisory and NSFW and such. Common sense.

Well . . . if you think about it, Muppets aren't all that different from AnimeHentai . . .
(which state do you suppose will be the first to cause changes to The Cartography of Porn? my money is on Nevada. or Utah.)

[kevinpate]

Bunty, you're mixing apples and onions. There are folks who are only attracted to children, no question. But there are also folks who simply settle for accessible. For the latter group, convenience and opportunity are the motivators. There isn't always a lot of difference between a child, an adult, a watermelon or a knothole on an old dead tree.

[Bunty]

Bunty, you're mixing apples and onions. There are folks who are only attracted to children, no question. But there are also folks who simply settle for accessible. For the latter group, convenience and opportunity are the motivators. There isn't always a lot of difference between a child, an adult, a watermelon or a knothole on an old dead tree.

Whatever, hard to understand, but I'm glad those types of beyond disgusting people are apparently fairly rare, because too often the state only wants to put child attackers in prison for a year or two. Such lax punishment is another thing hard to understand.

[Just the facts]

Bunty, you're mixing apples and onions. There are folks who are only attracted to children, no question. But there are also folks who simply settle for accessible. For the latter group, convenience and opportunity are the motivators. There isn't always a lot of difference between a child, an adult, a watermelon or a knothole on an old dead tree.

I am sure no one is sexually attracted to swimming pool filter, but guys get stuck in them all the time.

As for watermelons...



What was really funny is in one version of this scene her mug shot face is taped to the watermelon.

[jerrywall]

Whatever, hard to understand, but I'm glad those types of beyond disgusting people are apparently fairly rare, because too often the state only wants to put child attackers in prison for a year or two. Such lax punishment is another thing hard to understand.

Federal sentencing guidelines for sexual acts with a child are like 30 years. Second offense is life. Creation of child pornography is like 10-15 years per incident, I believe. I can't imagine the federal government ever declines to prosecute where there is enough evidence to do so. Maybe that's why the state doesn't go for major sentences themselves?

[ctchandler]

Jerrywall,
When are federal sentencing guidelines applicable? I suspect it has to do with crossing state lines with a minor but I'm not sure. Most states have a minimum sentencing guideline/law but some do not. In Montana a couple of weeks ago a man was given thirty days probation for child rape. The judge felt the child (who had committed suicide) was complicit. The laws have been dubbed "Jessica's" laws and I don't know if Oklahoma has passed one or if the guidelines in place are already sufficient.
C. T.

Federal sentencing guidelines for sexual acts with a child are like 30 years. Second offense is life. Creation of child pornography is like 10-15 years per incident, I believe. I can't imagine the federal government ever declines to prosecute where there is enough evidence to do so. Maybe that's why the state doesn't go for major sentences themselves?

[jerrywall]

Jerrywall,
When are federal sentencing guidelines applicable? I suspect it has to do with crossing state lines with a minor but I'm not sure. Most states have a minimum sentencing guideline/law but some do not. In Montana a couple of weeks ago a man was given thirty days probation for child rape. The judge felt the child (who had committed suicide) was complicit. The laws have been dubbed "Jessica's" laws and I don't know if Oklahoma has passed one or if the guidelines in place are already sufficient.
C. T.

Well, that Montana ruling was nuts in general. Wasn't that the one that the judge made a comment about the victim being "older than her chronological age"?

As for your other question, crossing state lines isn't required, but I believe they have to be under 14 (the victim). It may even be 12, for the minimum to kick in. That's the same age kick in for Jessica's law as well. The victim in Montana was 14 (which IMO still doesn't explain the stupidly light sentence, especially for a repeat offender). I'm sure someone who's more knowledgeable than I can kick in and correct/clarify if I'm wrong.

[ctchandler]

Jerrywall,
Yes, that's the one. I really don't believe that the feds get involved unless certain conditions exist (crossing state lines of course is one), but I probably am wrong. If they could, why have we had these judges around the country handing out light sentences and the convicted man/woman walks or spends two months/six months in jail? No federal intervention at all. Maybe someone with experience in this area can shed some light on this for us.
C. T.

Well, that Montana ruling was nuts in general. Wasn't that the one that the judge made a comment about the victim being "older than her chronological age"?