Lindsey Street Widening Final Render - YouTube
I'm pretty sure that this youtube shows what most folks thought they were voting on.
There are no roundabouts in this video
Its more than the city of Norman officials that know that roundabouts and 1 lane in each direct are not the solution in all cases.
Now, to not know that, is what is blind.
PS:Oh, and please tell us more about your accusation of the Norman fire department following outdated code books?
You still haven't answered my question. Why are you just now trumpeting the safety concerns if they are so major? Why wait until the last minute before it appears council is ready to approve the roundabout design to start launching mass protests? You've gone from saying OU football traffic is the major concern and now this.
You've also COMPLETELY discounted the rest of the story for only 2 lines. How do you respond to the Carmel, IN situation where their fire chief was against roundabouts but now supports them since heir response times are better and there are fewer accidents.
City of Norman officials have experience building...one...roundabout. I'm not really sure they have the knowledge and experience to make the call. That is why outside experts...experts were brought in to assist. It is also why the contractor on the project still supports a roundabout on at least the Berry/Lindsey intersection - as well as the various intersections from Berry to campus - or did you block that part out?
I have been reading this thread for several days and the immaturity and sarcasm make me laugh. This whole conversation reminds me of when LowRyter was complaining about how unsafe the exit off the new I-40 to NB Penn was. Here is where the funny part of the conversation starts (post 1310) for anyone who wants to go back and laugh at it: http://www.okctalk.com/transportatio...pdates-53.html
To a degree but I trust the people who would be dealing with the situation every day more and who have taken the time to study the issue from their point of veiw. Their recommendations trump the guy they brought in to talk and most everybody except the roundabouters understand this.
Are you really willing to risk lives?
LOL. I've had enough of this thread. You're seriously asking me if I am really willing to risk lives? C'mon man. I've presented you with facts about how much safer roundabouts are how much they decrease injury crashes and crashes in general. I don't know what else to say. I'm done.
I have been talking about for a very long time and at times with city of Norman officials.
I thought I told you that already.
The Carmel In fire department doesn't live in Norman and know what we need.. What they say should have no Bering about what happens in Norman OK
serious ? west Lindsey street currently carries over 20k cars a day average 2 lane roads with roundabouts can handle 20-25k cars ...
why would Norman rebuild a road to barely handle current traffic .... not even including event traffic?
Well which traffic forecasts do you go with to prepare for the future? Traffic has been in a steady decline for 10 years on Lindsey. Also event traffic 6 times out of the year shouldn't justify the remaining 359...we've been down this path already and put that silly notion to bed.
And I have present you and others with linked facts and informed opinions that say you are wrong and that your ideas about Lindsey street would slow emergency response times, thus costing lives and property.
I started out rather neutral on the idea of roundabouts but now that serious concerns have been raised there is no way they should be built. They were not even part of the plan that was voted on..There is another side to this that you and several others just refuse to look at.
And please, what about those code books
So you've been talking about it a long time, with some Norman official, yet you never bring it up until just now. If it was such a concern for you I would think you would have brought it up on your own and not wait for the Transcript to run a story.
While Carmel and Norman are different cities, they provide a model that we can work off of and adapt to our own needs. You know...like how most project concepts are done. So we should completely ignore ANY outside examples and just go with the force for our own solutions? I fail to see the logic in that.
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