Consolidated Rental Car Facility

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[catch22]

Pete, it looks like I see covered spaces in that drawing. Have to look closely.

[catch22]

Also, this would be a good place to have a bus transfer center. A lot of cities do something similar to keep buses from getting slowed down by airport terminal roads. Moot point because we are actually eliminating public transit to the airport.

[tomokc]

This adds to the already high level of unpleasantness in travel today. More time to stand in lines and ride shuttles that don't get you where you want to go.

The taxi drivers will love it.

[LakeEffect]

Yes, there will be canopies above every space. Not as nice as a garage, in my opinion, but it will be nice to have all of the vehicles covered.

[Spartan]

Why will we drop $44 million on a car rental facility and then it's as if talking about a similarly expensive rail link to downtown is pie in the sky...

[kevinpate]

Why will we drop $44 million on a car rental facility and then it's as if talking about a similarly expensive rail link to downtown is pie in the sky...

Because they've assigned recoupment to the users of the rental facility cars , via the 4.50 per day [for now] rental surcharge?

[HangryHippo]

Also, this would be a good place to have a bus transfer center. A lot of cities do something similar to keep buses from getting slowed down by airport terminal roads. Moot point because we are actually eliminating public transit to the airport.

Another shining example of our city's infinite wisdom.

[BoulderSooner]

this facility will sit pretty close to where a future commuter rail line to the airport would connect ... and would make a very good termination point ... with the 3 min ride times

[tomokc]

What shuttle service currently runs between WRWA and the CBD? One would think that two express busses could be assigned, each departing each location at the half-hour, taking 15 minutes en route and 15 minutes to unload/reload passengers.

[CaptDave]

What shuttle service currently runs between WRWA and the CBD? One would think that two express busses could be assigned, each departing each location at the half-hour, taking 15 minutes en route and 15 minutes to unload/reload passengers.

None that I am aware of at this time. This makes far too much sense.

[tomokc]

None that I am aware of at this time. This makes far too much sense.

Thanks, Dave. So what would keep an existing, experienced transportation company - Airport Express, for example - from stepping into this void? They have the vehicles (start small with vans to measure demand, and then scale up as necessary), drivers, maintenance capacity, fuel contracts, insurance policies, etc. Have two or three vans wrapped with unique graphics, map, phone number and URL, and they're in business. Undercut the one-way taxi rate by a few bucks. If the trial is unsuccessful, tear off the wraps and re-task the vans to regular Airport Express duties.

[bradh]

Why will we drop $44 million on a car rental facility and then it's as if talking about a similarly expensive rail link to downtown is pie in the sky...

No freaking way $44 million would get that rail done

[LakeEffect]

No freaking way $44 million would get that rail done

It's plausible - use the existing SWCC line and upgrade it. However, this line of thinking assumes that all visitors want, and need, to go downtown. Many business travelers have business outside downtown right now, so that doesn't work. Same goes for tourists and people visiting family and need to rent a car...

[HangryHippo]

It's plausible - use the existing SWCC line and upgrade it. However, this line of thinking assumes that all visitors want, and need, to go downtown. Many business travelers have business outside downtown right now, so that doesn't work. Same goes for tourists and people visiting family and need to rent a car...

Isn't downtown where things should stop? Let local transit take it the rest of the way.

[ljbab728]

Isn't downtown where things should stop? Let local transit take it the rest of the way.

I deal with business travelers on a daily basis and it is rare that any want to rely on public mass transportation anywhere they go in the world unless they just don't have any other options.

[bluedogok]

I guess everyone forgot that until only about 2 years ago, we had off-airport rentals with shuttles and uncovered parking. So we only recently even had this benefit for our visitors. NONE of them had covered parking at the facilities on Meridian....they're all still here, the buildings are just owned by someone else now (except Enterprise). So "hissy fit" doesn't really count. None of the complaining really does since it's just going back to how it was.....just making the centralized rental facility closer to the airport since they dont have to go north of airport rd.

If the rentals want covered, they can put in covered areas. Otherwise, our visitors can "rough it" like they do at every other airport in the world. If you're complaint is the car being hot or cold when you get in, you've got too much free time to complain.

Because they've assigned recoupment to the users of the rental facility cars , via the 4.50 per day [for now] rental surcharge?

Correct, the rental car companies usually pay for these type of amenities, sometimes it is financed by the airport and pair through a rental car fee or sometimes it is paid directly by the rental car companies by them writing a check to the contractor. We have both conditions on some items at SDF/Louisville.

I deal with business travelers on a daily basis and it is rare that any want to rely on public mass transportation anywhere they go in the world unless they just don't have any other options.

The only business trip that I have had with no vehicle was the three week trip to Tokyo, all other trips had a vehicle. I have taken personal trips to Boston or NYC and not rented a car, we rode the subway or took Amtrak to areas outside the city.

[soonerguru]

I have never rented a vehicle on business trips to Manhattan, and frequently used public transit while there on business. If transit were available, I would use it elsewhere also, but virtually no cities in the US compare to NYC when it comes to transit.

[ljbab728]

I have never rented a vehicle on business trips to Manhattan, and frequently used public transit while there on business. If transit were available, I would use it elsewhere also, but virtually no cities in the US compare to NYC when it comes to transit.

Few business travelers I deal with going to NYC rent cars. Most take taxis or a limo service from the airport. Some might use the subway when they arrive.

[BoulderSooner]

I guess everyone forgot that until only about 2 years ago, we had off-airport rentals with shuttles and uncovered parking. So we only recently even had this benefit for our visitors. NONE of them had covered parking at the facilities on Meridian....they're all still here, the buildings are just owned by someone else now (except Enterprise). So "hissy fit" doesn't really count. None of the complaining really does since it's just going back to how it was.....just making the centralized rental facility closer to the airport since they dont have to go north of airport rd.

If the rentals want covered, they can put in covered areas. Otherwise, our visitors can "rough it" like they do at every other airport in the world. If you're complaint is the car being hot or cold when you get in, you've got too much free time to complain.

i don't believe this to be true ..

[LakeEffect]

Isn't downtown where things should stop? Let local transit take it the rest of the way.

OK, yes, in a perfect situation. But not in OKC, not right now.

[tomokc]

Each city and trip itinerary determine whether to rent a car, hire a taxi or use public transportation. We'll use all three in upcoming trips to TVC, ORD and LHR.

OKC is an easy town to rent a car because parking is available and inexpensive, whether downtown during the day, or overnight at a hotel. This rental car change at Will Rogers will make it more difficult and time-consuming to rent a car, and therefore less appealing. If I were coming to OKC and needed to arrange my own transportation, I'd like the option of convenient public transportation, but I wouldn't expect it to be as comprehensive as what you'd find at large cities such as NYC, DCA, SFO or even ORD. If I need to be downtown and a train/shuttle/rail will get me there quickly, I'll take it; otherwise I'll take a cab.

Incidentally I read last week that a company just started offering a fleet of Audi A4s at SFO, all of which are reserved, rented and returned via smartphone, with either minimal or zero human interaction. That's all I know, but it sounds appealing!

[HangryHippo]

OK, yes, in a perfect situation. But not in OKC, not right now.

Where would you have the routes end at this time?

[LakeEffect]

Where would you have the routes end at this time?

I'm saying that if a route ended downtown right now, a business traveler could conduct work downtown only. Transit outside is woefully inadequate.