NW Expressway & Classen

[Pete]

Over the last couple of years I've noticed a slew of demolition permits for a small stretch of 49th Street at the intersection of NW Expressway and Classen.

Further investigation shows the majority of properties on that block have been recently acquired by 49th Street Rentals LLC, which tracks back to Dusty Burchfield and Burchfield Commercial Real Estate.

Not sure what is planned here but obviously the property would have to be rezoned for anything other than single family homes.

Great corner... Keep your eyes on it.

[Teo9969]

I would KILL for another high rise right here. Oh my God would I.

Downtown isn't going to win every business development, and if there's anywhere else other than downtown that I think would not be a total waste for that type of development, it would be right here.

Also Pete, this is technically Urban Core development...

[LakeEffect]

I would KILL for another high rise right here. Oh my God would I.

Downtown isn't going to win every business development, and if there's anywhere else other than downtown that I think would not be a total waste for that type of development, it would be right here.

Also Pete, this is technically Urban Core development...

Heck no. No high rise here. It is far too close to the existing single family neighborhood. Maybe a good spot to highlight 3 story mixed use that integrates well into the neighborhood, but in no way should a high rise go here.

The next best place for high rise development would be an extension of the core in Core to Shore. See http://www.batesline.com/archives/20...velopment.html

[Plutonic Panda]

Heck no. No high rise here. It is far too close to the existing single family neighborhood. Maybe a good spot to highlight 3 story mixed use that integrates well into the neighborhood, but in no way should a high rise go here.

i think this would make an awesome place for a high rise

[LakeEffect]

i think this would make an awesome place for a high rise

Why? Explain more.

[bchris02]

Yeah another high rise on NW Expressway will likely face significant NIMBY opposition. I wouldn't mind seeing 10-15 story glass office buildings though. Either that or a true lifestyle center anchored by H&M or Belk. I think it could be a great compliment to Penn Square Mall which is a very small mall as far as malls go.

[DoctorTaco]

Heck no. No high rise here. It is far too close to the existing single family neighborhood. Maybe a good spot to highlight 3 story mixed use that integrates well into the neighborhood, but in no way should a high rise go here.

My cynical prediction is suburban-style strip mall completely seperated (by a high wall, say) from the surrounding single-family homes. This spot is over a quarter mile from a CVS/Walgreens, so that is a safe bet. I just hope it turns out as a CVS/Starbucks/Chipotle and not a CVS/Dollar General.

[Plutonic Panda]

Why? Explain more.

i think it would look really cool there. Sure one could look cool elsewhere, but I wouldn't be opposed to one here at all

[Spartan]

Whatever the project is it will have to justify prohibitively high land assembly costs. So probably office.

[Teo9969]

The absolute main reason why is because it would be another high-rise to view from my porch. Love sitting out smoking a cigar and staring at Valliance...Although, maybe another high rise would block Valliance :-O.

I don't pretend to think that's going to happen, but I do think a 10 to 15 story building would be a really good deal here. Would be a great place for a large facility, and surely, with the amount of land it looks like this developer will be amassing, it is going to be such. It's certainly not big enough for a big strip center with a sea of parking.

[Plutonic Panda]

I would like to see some of the developments North Dallas is getting(like the State Farm Regional Facility in Plano. HALF A BILLION DOLLARS!!!!! It is huge and I think it tops out somewhere in the 15-20 stories range although most is shorter. I'll see if I can find a rendering) and place them along NW Expressway, C2S and hopefully Memorial and Penn will someday be widened to 6 lane roads and we will see huge infill projects like the regional manufacturing and managing complexes N Dallas seems to be getting announced on a weekly basis.


I would love to see the GE research facility in C2S. That would jump start that area like no other and might get us something like the C2S renderings.

[mugofbeer]

1) What kind of vacancy rates are there in the NW burbs and

2) Maybe is in prep for some sort of expansion/interchange of Classen and NW Hiway to make it more high speed?

[Chicken In The Rough]

This area has been ideal for a scrape 'n build for years.

[bchris02]

The absolute main reason why is because it would be another high-rise to view from my porch. Love sitting out smoking a cigar and staring at Valliance...Although, maybe another high rise would block Valliance :-O.

I don't pretend to think that's going to happen, but I do think a 10 to 15 story building would be a really good deal here. Would be a great place for a large facility, and surely, with the amount of land it looks like this developer will be amassing, it is going to be such. It's certainly not big enough for a big strip center with a sea of parking.

Belle Isle was supposed to have several 10-20 story towers in its original plan before it became a Wal-Mart Supercenter.

[Rover]

Interesting. Who was doing that development with multiple towers and why didn't they proceed? Guess I had missed that proposal. All the office I saw proposed was the residential style offices that are there between the shops and the cemetery.

[Spartan]

Interesting. Who was doing that development with multiple towers and why didn't they proceed? Guess I had missed that proposal. All the office I saw proposed was the residential style offices that are there between the shops and the cemetery.

And don't forget Pearl's Graveside.

[Plutonic Panda]

Belle Isle was supposed to have several 10-20 story towers in its original plan before it became a Wal-Mart Supercenter.

do you know that never happened???? That area would be so much cooler. I love this, but man sometimes I think of it could be today and I just shake my head.

[Spartan]

It was an epically botched urban development. We don't even talk about it.

[ljbab728]

It was an epically botched urban development. We don't even talk about it.

Thunder, I don't think it was ever intended to be an "urban development". That term wasn't even talked about much at the time. It just didn't happen as was originally presented.

[Teo9969]

Even with towers, it likely wouldn't have been particularly urban. The area where Wal-Mart currently rests would have been a great area for a lifestyle center and some 10 to 20 story towers, both residential and office, with a variety of entertainment and shopping options, not to mention the Mall being right there. The location is unparalleled on the NW side...It really is .the connection between the core and the NW burbs...you can get anywhere in the city in 20 minutes or les.

[OKCTalker]

I hope they don't allow ingress/egress onto NWX from any point except Independence. Eastbound traffic on NWX moves smoothly and quickly right now, and any curb cut will cause problems (and likely require acceleration/deceleration lanes).

[Rover]

Even with towers, it likely wouldn't have been particularly urban. The area where Wal-Mart currently rests would have been a great area for a lifestyle center and some 10 to 20 story towers, both residential and office, with a variety of entertainment and shopping options, not to mention the Mall being right there. The location is unparalleled on the NW side...It really is .the connection between the core and the NW burbs...you can get anywhere in the city in 20 minutes or les.

Lifestyle centers haven't been a popular concept here. Actually, Aubrey was working towards it at 63rd and Western area. And, one was blocked at 36th and Bway Extension. Until the urbanized lifestyle is shown and adopted here, downtown is the best and seemingly only area where it is totally embraced. As people see the value in it they will be more understanding and accepting of the quasi urban suburban life centers. But, rather than artificially create one, I think they will come from places like Capitol Hill, Britton, Bethany, 63rd, and May, etc., where there is already a concentration of people and business. While I agree Belle Isle would have been a great location for one, I don't really think one was ever planned for.

[bluedogok]

Has the land where Horn Seed was been sold yet? I saw it on a Loop Net listing even before David closed the store down. That could make an interesting mid-rise type of development with the properties between Pearl's and the hotels.

[mugofbeer]

Lifestyle centers haven't been a popular concept here. Actually, Aubrey was working towards it at 63rd and Western area. And, one was blocked at 36th and Bway Extension. Until the urbanized lifestyle is shown and adopted here, downtown is the best and seemingly only area where it is totally embraced. As people see the value in it they will be more understanding and accepting of the quasi urban suburban life centers. But, rather than artificially create one, I think they will come from places like Capitol Hill, Britton, Bethany, 63rd, and May, etc., where there is already a concentration of people and business. While I agree Belle Isle would have been a great location for one, I don't really think one was ever planned for.

Wish someone would replace Shepherd Mall with one.

[bchris02]

It may not have been urban, but it would have been 100x better than a Wal-Mart. Here is what was originally planned. It even took into account the old power plant and saved it.