Kd's Restaurant / Legacy Grill

[Praedura]

More construction shots -- these are from Sunday (June 23):


















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[HangryHippo]

Randy Hogan should be barred from further downtown development. His designs suck.

[jedicurt]

Randy Hogan should be barred from further downtown development. His designs suck.

I will not say that his designs suck... i will say that he should be barred from further downtown development as his designes are more suited for a non-urban environment. If this were being build on Meridian, or Memorial, or Ed Nobel Parkway, i'd have no problems with it. It's just not what Bricktown needs

[HangryHippo]

I will not say that his designs suck... i will say that he should be barred from further downtown development as his designes are more suited for a non-urban environment. If this were being build on Meridian, or Memorial, or Ed Nobel Parkway, i'd have no problems with it. It's just not what Bricktown needs

I do think his designs suck. But you have point in that they would fare much better in a non-urban environment. But the disappointment is certainly magnified because of where they've been built.

[UnFrSaKn]

KD's (July 5 2013) - a set on Flickr

[ljbab728]

A slight delay in the opening according to Steve.

Weather sets back opening for KD's in Bricktown | News OK

And no, I didn't have lunch with him to already know that a story about this would be coming. LOL

[UnFrSaKn]

[UnFrSaKn]

[Pete]

Thanks, Will!

They are moving right along.

I actually like the brick they are using... And look forward to seeing lots of people out on the patio along the canal.

[Urbanized]

Yeah, the masonry work is comparatively intricate and ornate. It's nice, especially close-up.

[Plutonic Panda]

Just curious(sorry if I sound stupid), if Hogan owns Lower Bricktown, do people still pay a sales tax and if so, I'm assuming it does go to the city.

[Bill Robertson]

Thanks, Will!

They are moving right along.

I actually like the brick they are using... And look forward to seeing lots of people out on the patio along the canal.

I'm looking forward to seeing how much the patio is patronized. Toby Keith's reason for enclosing their patio was that it wasn't used. Always too hot, too cold, too windy. I hope KD's patio works and proves TK's wrong. I liked TK's patio.

[Bill Robertson]

I will not say that his designs suck... i will say that he should be barred from further downtown development as his designes are more suited for a non-urban environment. If this were being build on Meridian, or Memorial, or Ed Nobel Parkway, i'd have no problems with it. It's just not what Bricktown needs

I'm really not trying to cause a urban-suburban debate. But could it be that Bricktown designs tend toward the suburban because most of the patrons commute to Bricktown from suburbia?

[dankrutka]

I'm really not trying to cause a urban-suburban debate. But could it be that Bricktown designs tend toward the suburban because most of the patrons commute to Bricktown from suburbia?

I'd say it's more that suburban developers start projects there. Suburban people love, at least visiting, vibrant urban areas. For example, who doesn't want to visit to NYC? If Lower Bricktown was developed according to urban principles I don't think a family from Edmond heading downtown for a Thunder game is going to say, "No. That area is too urban. Lets find somewhere to eat that looks more like our subdivision." I don't think most people even define the urban/suburban concepts consciously. People will frequent the options you give them based on a number of factors. Lower Bricktown provides some decent options with easy nearby parking, but if you put these options in an urban setting with a parking garage I think even more people would be there because the area would attract more by other modes of transportation.

[ljbab728]

Just curious(sorry if I sound stupid), if Hogan owns Lower Bricktown, do people still pay a sales tax and if so, I'm assuming it does go to the city.

Plupan, who owns a building or the land it's on has nothing to do with paying sales tax. It's based on what sales tax district the business is in. If there are multiple sales taxes, such as city, county, or state it is split between them based on the amount of the tax.

[Plutonic Panda]

Plupan, who owns a building or the land it's on has nothing to do with paying sales tax. It's based on what sales tax district the business is in. If there are multiple sales taxes, such as city, county, or state it is split between them based on the amount of the tax.

Ah, well the reason I ask is that it was said the police didn't police patrol the area and that the Sheriffs department was contracted during big events, so that got me wondering.

[zorobabel]

Excluding the overhang, it's a very strip mall-y design. Not quite how I imagined this area developing.

[ourulz2000]

When its finished and it's night, the building is lit up and people are on the canal it won't be half bad. Just looks small and lame from the backside during the day.

[catch22]

Thru poor planning the back of Tobys is on the canal and the front of KD's is on the canal. And opposite for the parking lot side. Identity crisis?

Lower bricktown is a joke.

[HangryHippo]

Thru poor planning the back of Tobys is on the canal and the front of KD's is on the canal. And opposite for the parking lot side. Identity crisis?

Lower bricktown is a joke.

It absolutely is. What I wouldn't give for that area to be able to start over.

[Snowman]

I'm really not trying to cause a urban-suburban debate. But could it be that Bricktown designs tend toward the suburban because most of the patrons commute to Bricktown from suburbia?

Probably a mix of they did not make any real enforcement mechanism for making him do what was originally promised, along with helping get him the land for far under market value so additional streams of revenue like residential or office space above the first flow was not pursued

[Rover]

I think we are finding that the canal by itself is not a big economic generator. It has been a great rallying point and an interesting feature, but not a magnet. The real development has been further north and in Midtown. It is the proximity to opportunity that will draw attention and value. Higher priced real estate follows that opportunity, it doesn't create it. Adding to the cost of development on the canal wouldn't automatically make someone build an apartment building on it. Having more canal traffic would.

[ourulz2000]

I think we are finding that the canal by itself is not a big economic generator.

Give it time. The River Walk in San Antonio got rolling in the 80s. OKC needs another 10 years to develop business, population around it. Need more people in the area.

SA is the 7th most populous city in America, so they have plenty of foot traffic on top of being #1 destination in Texas.

[Pete]

Moving right along:

[architect5311]

Moving right along:

What a shame...such a weak design.