In terms of Wal-Mart and it's affect on towns and businesses, I found the book "The Wal-Mart Effect" to be very informative. Each chapter kinda alternates from a pro to a con on Wal-Mart.
I forgot to also mention, I think a Lifetime Fitness up on Memorial somewhere between MacArthur and Council would be wonderful. I know it's an extremely overpriced gym but I loved working out there when I lived in Phoenix.
I would say that OKC is full of options for places to "go and get gas, maybe a drink." Unfortunately, with only a few exceptions, that ALL we have here in OKC. Much like the whole discussion about the low standard set with grocery stores, we also have the same low standard for gas stations/convenience stores. Heaven forbid we expect a clean, well managed place to get gas and convenience items... The new larger OnCue's are a great start, but we need a lot more of them... in lieu of getting QT's, that is....
1. actual 7 11's
2. neiman marcus
3. costco
4 kroger
5. DQ
But if it were swapped out, would you go there more often than the 7-11? Do you really think people in Tulsa go to QT more than I go to 7-11? I like going to 7-11 for gas and a big gulp or (faux) cappuccino? I know the product well and the gas prices are often quite competitive. Maybe I just am use to them, but I really don't think I need a cleaner place to buy gas or a soda.
I can say without a doubt I personally visited QT WAY MORE OFTEN when I lived amongst them, than I go into the hepatitis trap 7-11's around here. And, just to put it in perspective... If QT were in this market, I wouldn't even look at gas prices. QT would be where I go and get gas no matter the cost.
You must be going on paydays or some other odd time. I've never had to wait more than one cart back in line, there. pahdz, is right, though. It's hyped here so much that people who go there for the first time after reading this thread are bound to be disappointed. I like it because it's on the way home from work, I can count on good dairy prices and good butcher services. My appreciation for those factors make it so I also like the Crest in Midwest City. Same points: (more or less) on my way home, good dairy prices and reliable meats.
Whenever I visit my parents in Bartlesville or friends in Tulsa, I always make it a point to stop at the QT to get gas right before the turnpike when coming home. Nine out of ten times, I also get a drink and chips or candy for the drive. I can tell you without a doubt, if the 7-11 this is at 23rd and Penn were there instead of the QT, I would stop for gas and that is about it.
I also have friends who come to stay with us who ask us where any nicer convenience stores are where they could feel safe. They always like the OnCue on 23rd and I-235 instead of the 7-11 near my house.
Kroger Agrees to Buy Harris Teeter
Not entirely pertinent to this thread, unless you consider that Kroger might not be in a position to buy out Homeland after spending $2.5B on Harris Teeter, darnit.
Under the terms of the agreement, Cincinnati-based Kroger will pay $49.38 for each of the supermarket chain's shares. The price represents a 2 percent increase over the company's Monday closing stock price.Harris Teeter operates 212 stores in eight southeastern and mid-Atlantic states and Washington D.C., along with a pair of distribution centers and a dairy facility in North Carolina. Its fiscal 2012 revenue totaled about $4.5 billion.
In comparison, Kroger operates 2,419 stores in 31 states. In addition to its flagship brand of supermarkets, it also owns Ralphs, Fry's, Food 4 Less and other brands. The acquisition adds another three states to its store footprint.After the deal closes, Harris Teeter will become a Kroger subsidiary and will continue to be led by members of its current senior management. There are no plans to close stores and the division will remain based in Matthews, N.C.
Ralph's Pharmacy is being built at Edmond Rd and Western. Just read that Ralph's is an affiliate of Kroger.
Are there expansion plans for more Ralph's stores? Any comments about Ralph's? I personally am not a fan of Walgreens nor CVS. We use Homeland pharmacy.
Yeah, Harris Teeter is a great grocery chain in fact one of my favorite. A lot of people in Charlotte are disappointed about this in that they perceive Kroger to be a downgrade.
I'm sure it can happen with any store, but I purchased their Italian sausage for use two days later, and when I took it out of the refrigerator it was spoiled and I had to throw it away. That's too soon to go bad. At least the name brand (including Lovera's from Krebs) have a use or freeze by date on them. The Crest sausage didn't. Made me wonder how long it had been in the meat case. I have found eggs beyond their date and when I gave a carton to the manager, he at least appeared angry and sent a couple of people to remove any egg cartons past their date. A couple of other things kind of bothered me so I generally won't shop there. I do stop in once in a while but don't do normal/periodic grocery shopping.
C. T.
On edit, look at every Quiktrip location in Wichita, KS on Google Maps. All are new, landscaped and irrigated, clean, functional, pedestrian friendly.
I wonder if I went to any other city in the world and asked, "What 5 retailers do you wish you had in your city?", if anyone else would list a gas station convenience store.
Probably not. People in most cities take these things for granted and would probably laugh if they saw this thread. I personally don't see what the big deal is about QT, but a lot of people probably think the same thing about having nicer grocery stores. To me a Circle K or 7-11 is fine, and to others they may not wish for more than the Super Wal-Mart. Nonetheless, its the lack of these smaller amenities that can really make the adjustment to OKC from other cities more difficult. I think its stuff like this that also helps keep OKC's negative perception alive.
I think it also somewhat stems from OKC's still somewhat alive inferiority complex vs Tulsa. Tulsa was once significantly ahead of OKC. Recently the gap has narrowed significantly but there still are pleasantries available in Tulsa that are hard to come by in OKC, nice grocery and convenience stores among them. That being the case or not, there is no reason OKC shouldn't have these basic things they take for granted anywhere else.
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