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  1. #1026

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    The other option is to not be so picky in choosing tenants. It's my understanding that Classen Curve has turned away quite a few tenants (e.g., Chipotle) over the last few years. Maybe that will kill what they're going for, but at some point management may not have a choice.

  2. #1027

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankrutka View Post
    The other option is to not be so picky in choosing tenants. It's my understanding that Classen Curve has turned away quite a few tenants (e.g., Chipotle) over the last few years. Maybe that will kill what they're going for, but at some point management may not have a choice.
    Dan Krutka, are you back in OKC? Jimi said he thought you had moved to Kansas.

  3. #1028

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankrutka View Post
    The other option is to not be so picky in choosing tenants. It's my understanding that Classen Curve has turned away quite a few tenants (e.g., Chipotle) over the last few years. Maybe that will kill what they're going for, but at some point management may not have a choice.
    Yeah I would rather see a thriving center with a mix of high-end boutiques and mid-range chains than a dead, vacant center which is exactly where its headed unless something changes. Chain stores/restaurants bring foot traffic which is what this development desperately needs.

  4. #1029

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    Quote Originally Posted by bchris02 View Post
    Yeah I would rather see a thriving center with a mix of high-end boutiques and mid-range chains than a dead, vacant center which is exactly where its headed unless something changes. Chain stores/restaurants bring foot traffic which is what this development desperately needs.
    Agreed.

  5. #1030

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    Honestly, this shopping center may always have a shot just because of how easy it could turn into a restaurant/bar mall.

  6. #1031

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teo9969 View Post
    Honestly, this shopping center may always have a shot just because of how easy it could turn into a restaurant/bar mall.
    I would be all for that.

  7. #1032

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    Quote Originally Posted by bchris02 View Post
    I would be all for that.
    Not enough parking for that.

  8. #1033

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    They are currently maxed out on the number of bars and restaurants allowed in the approved Planned Unit Development, and in fact had to get an exception to get to the number they have now.

    I doubt they could push that any further.

  9. #1034

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    With all due respect, the reason that development is not even remotely walkable is due to the design, not the parking requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bchris02 View Post
    Classen Curve is in such a prime location I would hate to see it just sit vacant. Hopefully eventually it will get a new owner that can find a way to make it work.
    There is an old saying in speculative development: "It isn't important to be first, it is important to be the first to be second". In other words, the speculative developer pays what it is...well..."speculated" to be worth while the second owner pays more nearly what it is worth at the current time. The second owner takes advantage of the risk and timing miscalculations and usually can afford to modify the project to more nearly suit demand. Hind-sight is always better, right?

  11. #1036

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    Sid, I just meant that even with the parking requirements the design could have been much better.

    But regardless, it's one of the most unwalkable new developments I've seen. And as I've pointed out before, it's even difficult for CHK employees to walk the short distance over there, let alone walk around once they arrive.

  12. #1037

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    I hear you brother... Preach on!

  13. #1038

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    Sid & Pete: Isn't it rare for a PUD to be amended, especially so soon after having been approved?

  14. #1039

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    It was amended once to allow for more restaurants -- I believe for Tucker's.

    But they've also added more parking recently, so there may still be some room come back to the planning commission one more time.

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    I wouldn't be surprised to see this become an office park.

  16. #1041

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Sid, I just meant that even with the parking requirements the design could have been much better.

    But regardless, it's one of the most unwalkable new developments I've seen. And as I've pointed out before, it's even difficult for CHK employees to walk the short distance over there, let alone walk around once they arrive.
    Absolutely. I really want to like it, but I just don't. I like some of the tenants, but other than the short North South run on the West, it is really just a strip mall. I never see anyone outside of their vehicles.

  17. #1042

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    It's actually worse than a typical strip mall in many ways because there are gaps between some of the buildings that require you to walk through the parking lot and across unmarked drives... Which, as you mentioned, absolutely no one does.

    I just counted NINE different drives / curb-cuts in and out of this development to the surrounding streets. It's confusing to navigate even in your car, let alone on foot.

    So, I bet 99% of the people that end up at Classen Curve patronize one tenant then leave.

  18. #1043

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    Its amusing how car centric the development is when their customers mostly live within a couple miles. I feel like I twilight zoned back to Edmond when I bike past it.

  19. #1044

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    It's actually worse than a typical strip mall in many ways because there are gaps between some of the buildings that require you to walk through the parking lot and across unmarked drives... Which, as you mentioned, absolutely no one does.

    I just counted NINE different drives / curb-cuts in and out of this development to the surrounding streets. It's confusing to navigate even in your car, let alone on foot.

    So, I bet 99% of the people that end up at Classen Curve patronize one tenant then leave.
    !!! Every time I drive in I'm always concerned I'm going the wrong way!!!

  20. #1045

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    A new blowout bar is opening in Classen Curve simply called "blo." Not sure where it will be located. When I mapped 5850 N Classen Suite 3, it took me to the area near On a Whim. I hope the name doesn't attract the wrong kind of customers... "I was told I could score some..." "Is this where I get a ...job?"

  21. #1046

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    Quote Originally Posted by warreng88 View Post
    A new blowout bar is opening in Classen Curve simply called "blo." Not sure where it will be located. When I mapped 5850 N Classen Suite 3, it took me to the area near On a Whim. I hope the name doesn't attract the wrong kind of customers... "I was told I could score some..." "Is this where I get a ...job?"
    Yup. Just blow drying and styling, no haircuts. Pretty unique.

  22. #1047

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    Quote Originally Posted by warreng88 View Post
    A new blowout bar is opening in Classen Curve simply called "blo." Not sure where it will be located. When I mapped 5850 N Classen Suite 3, it took me to the area near On a Whim. I hope the name doesn't attract the wrong kind of customers... "I was told I could score some..." "Is this where I get a ...job?"
    OMFG "blo?" That's hysterical. This development is a cheesy strip mall trying to be pretentious.

  23. #1048

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    Saw that LULU lemon is opening up a store, anyone know when it will be open?

  24. #1049

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    The building permit was issued in mid-February so they must be getting close.


    Here is a link to that store's website:

    Suite 3 - 5810 North Classen Blvd, Oklahoma City | lululemon athletica store | yoga, running, & workout clothes

  25. #1050

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    The building permit was issued in mid-February so they must be getting close.


    Here is a link to that store's website:

    Suite 3 - 5810 North Classen Blvd, Oklahoma City | lululemon athletica store | yoga, running, & workout clothes
    Yoga, running and workout clothes - in the same center as Red Coyote and Barre Fitness? Have they lost their mind!?

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