Mustang to get Applebee's and Jack in the Box

[Zuplar]

This was announced tonight. I didn't hear where but my guess is in front of the Lowes. If I remember right it was suppose to go in there a few years ago.

[sgt. pepper]

Yes, an Applebee's was rumored to go in when the Lowe's was built. But what Applebee's/jack in the box announcement was this? Who announced it?

[Zuplar]

It was announced by the Mayor and council meeting last night. Mustang Times reported it so I'm sure it will be in the paper later this week. Paper had it on the Facebook page late last night.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Musta...ation=timeline

[sgt. pepper]

thanx Zuplar, reading the comments, the Applebee's is going in front of Lowe's....and a Burger King in going in Wal-Mart.

[Zuplar]

I hadn't heard anything about that Burger King, wonder if it's replacing McDonalds. You seen anything on that other than the comments section?

[sgt. pepper]

no, somebody just commented that on Facebook.

[Zuplar]

I wonder if when the paper comes out this week if there will be anything concerning this news.

[stick47]

Was in WM having a battery installed in the truck today and the lady there said BK was coming into the store.

[Bunty]

Applebee's and Jack in the Box getting tax incentives? That's what the Olive Garden wanted before it would build in Stillwater.

[Zuplar]

Mustang Times, Two new restaurants planning to open in Mustang

[Zuplar]

Was in WM having a battery installed in the truck today and the lady there said BK was coming into the store.

Do you know if they are replacing McD's.

[stick47]

McDs is gone! Yes BK will be the new in store fast food provider.

[Zuplar]

McDs is gone! Yes BK will be the new in store fast food provider.

It never really made sense to have 2 McDs in such a small town. I get tired of driving to 40 and Mustang for BK, so this will be nice.

[stick47]

Population-wise Mustang is only 5 or 6,000 less than Yukon. Both of which are larger in population than El Reno tho Mustang only beats ER by a few hundred.

[Geographer]

wouldn't it be nice for cities in oklahoma to derive their income from property taxes instead of sales tax? I don't know about you...but I don't like it that my city has to basically sell itself to these chain stores that construct ugly single buildings with an even uglier pole sign...but they have no choice! The city is more concerned with bringing in sales tax than raising your property value, because from the city's perspective, they don't get as much money from property tax versus you spending $5 at BK for a burger.

I would like my city to focus on nicer street scapes and raising the area's value than recruiting bigger box stores to come litter areas of my town.

But I digress.

[jmpokc1957]

wouldn't it be nice for cities in oklahoma to derive their income from property taxes instead of sales tax? I don't know about you...but I don't like it that my city has to basically sell itself to these chain stores that construct ugly single buildings with an even uglier pole sign...but they have no choice! The city is more concerned with bringing in sales tax than raising your property value, because from the city's perspective, they don't get as much money from property tax versus you spending $5 at BK for a burger.

I would like my city to focus on nicer street scapes and raising the area's value than recruiting bigger box stores to come litter areas of my town.

But I digress.

I live in a state( Oregon ) that has no sales tax, only property tax and state income tax and, guess what, the cities and counties give property and income tax breaks to lure big box stores to their areas.

Whether property tax is better than sales tax is very debatable in my opinion. Sales tax gets everyone where property tax hands you a big bill once a year and the better the economic conditions( ie higher home values ) the bigger the bill.

When the focus is on property tax and it is the major source of funding for schools you have a continuous battle over schools and taxes. Rich counties get by but poorer counties really suffer.

[Geographer]

I live in a state( Oregon ) that has no sales tax, only property tax and state income tax and, guess what, the cities and counties give property and income tax breaks to lure big box stores to their areas.

Whether property tax is better than sales tax is very debatable in my opinion. Sales tax gets everyone where property tax hands you a big bill once a year and the better the economic conditions( ie higher home values ) the bigger the bill.

When the focus is on property tax and it is the major source of funding for schools you have a continuous battle over schools and taxes. Rich counties get by but poorer counties really suffer.

You could look at it the other way as well, sales tax is very regressive, hitting the lower income groups. People are just "okay" with sales tax over property tax because of the "little payments" that you make over the course of the year. It's just more regressive in nature.

[Zuplar]

You could look at it the other way as well, sales tax is very regressive, hitting the lower income groups. People are just "okay" with sales tax over property tax because of the "little payments" that you make over the course of the year. It's just more regressive in nature.

That kind of goes back to the argument of why should I have to pay more taxes just because I have a better paying job and more expensive house? But then again I'm all for a consumption tax and to rid us from income tax.

[Geographer]

That kind of goes back to the argument of why should I have to pay more taxes just because I have a better paying job and more expensive house? But then again I'm all for a consumption tax and to rid us from income tax.

Why should lower income groups pay a higher percentage of their income to consume the same candy bar as the higher income group? You can look at it both ways....you could also look at it as "you made a choice to consume a higher level of residency", thus you pay a higher tax for it

[stick47]

Reduce or eliminate (esp for seniors) the property tax and charge property tax for churches and institute a more wide spread luxury tax on related goods.

[Zuplar]

Why should lower income groups pay a higher percentage of their income to consume the same candy bar as the higher income group? You can look at it both ways....you could also look at it as "you made a choice to consume a higher level of residency", thus you pay a higher tax for it

If you are so financially struggling, that a candy bar is going to break the bank, then you shouldn't be buying it. That's half the problem right there. If you charged everyone a flat property tax percentage I would still be paying more than someone with a smaller house. No need to rub salt in a wound and charge me a higher rate.

[Rover]

We could try even more socialism. That worked well for China and the USSR.

[sgt. pepper]

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[kevinpate]

One thing to keep in mind. Once a sales tax goes away, you lose the share of public funds that the visitors and passerbys contribute to your infrastructure. A bigger deal in the metro than rural OK, but even a humble homeville like Poteau in SE OK has quite a lot of non-town folk spending money there daily. If that goes away from one's community, either the community makes it up internally, or must do without the services such funds help cover.

On a larger scale, I think something like 33%-38% of MAPs funds have come from non-OKC dollars being spent inside OKC. Not pocket change by any means.

[sgt. pepper]

People here are getting way off topic like every other thread in this forum. When I click on this thread, I want to see something about either Jack in the Box, or Applebee's, not how a city operates. If you people want to talk about how the city of Mustang operates, or any other city operates, please create a thread with that heading. If I (or anybody else) wants to find out how the City of Mustang do their business, then I will click on that thread. NOW lets get back to the subject. I am glad Mustang is getting a Jack in the Box and an Applebee's, especially Applebee's.