Discontinued the Daily Joklehoman

[OKCisOK4me]

Honestly all you have to do is get a bunch of good news apps on your phone and you never have to worry about world news again...

I think it's just harder for technically challenged people to transition from paper...

[Naptown12713]

One recommendation for the Oklahoman is to stop with the extreme right wing articles. The readers are intelligent enough to discern opinions from facts.

[ljbab728]

One recommendation for the Oklahoman is to stop with the extreme right wing articles. The readers are intelligent enough to discern opinions from facts.

You must not remember what it was like under the Gaylords. It's definitely done a left turn from them.

[Jim Kyle]

Saw in this morning's paper that their Washington sibling is stopping daily print publication in mid-June to become a weekly, with on-line daily publication continuing. Wonder how long it will be before the new ownership does the same thing here?

There are definitely far too many inches of "house ads" to indicate good financial health...

[onthestrip]

One recommendation for the Oklahoman is to stop with the extreme right wing articles. The readers are intelligent enough to discern opinions from facts.

No joke. The Oklahoman takes shots at Democrats almost daily. Sometimes they are really reaching with their criticisms. It was starting to get better under former editor in chief Ed Kelley but once he left and Anshultz bought the paper, it has got much more conservative.

[venture]

For me the Oklahoman is good for two things. The business section and the coupons on Sunday. The rest I tend to just put in the recycle bin. The Transcript gives me a much better look at the news and sports, that I care about, with out the political agenda. Their (Transcript) Op-Ed page is also very well balanced most of the time and not a nonstop attack on the opposite party of the owners.

[metro]

No joke. The Oklahoman takes shots at Democrats almost daily. Sometimes they are really reaching with their criticisms. It was starting to get better under former editor in chief Ed Kelley but once he left and Anshultz bought the paper, it has got much more conservative.

We need more outlets to balance out the constant conservative bashing in the lame stream media, heck even our current regime all they do is bash republicans at every media opportunity.

[metro]

For me the Oklahoman is good for two things. The business section and the coupons on Sunday. The rest I tend to just put in the recycle bin. The Transcript gives me a much better look at the news and sports, that I care about, with out the political agenda. Their (Transcript) Op-Ed page is also very well balanced most of the time and not a nonstop attack on the opposite party of the owners.

Yeah I read the business section, but just barely, it sucks and is lacking significant content. My wife likes the coupons on Sundays. If it weren't for the 1-2 week article on DT OKC development from Steve and the coupons, definitely wouldn't subscribe. I agree having a local daily is valuable, but if DO were to go out, another paper would step up. Competition in whats left of the free market.

[venture]

We need more outlets to balance out the constant conservative bashing in the lame stream media, heck even our current regime all they do is bash republicans at every media opportunity.

Don't be naive. Both parties bash each other at every media opportunity. Anyways, let's not get completely off topic.

Local competition among news outlets is good. The DOK is the big dog in the yard, but I find much more interesting and substantive news coming out of the more local papers like the Transcript. They also don't force a political view on people like the DOK.

[metro]

Don't be naive. Both parties bash each other at every media opportunity. Anyways, let's not get completely off topic.

Local competition among news outlets is good. The DOK is the big dog in the yard, but I find much more interesting and substantive news coming out of the more local papers like the Transcript. They also don't force a political view on people like the DOK.

Show me a national mainstream news outlet that's conservative other than Fox News (CNN, NBC, CNBC, ABC, CBS and their affiliates all lean left)

[Larry OKC]

Don't recall exactly when they started it, but there seemed to be a more balanced view of OU & OSU lately with each school getting a "front page" of the sports section. A bit confusing when you have 2 front pages....

[venture]

Show me a national mainstream news outlet that's conservative other than Fox News (CNN, NBC, CNBC, ABC, CBS and their affiliates all lean left)

Surely you don't mean local affiliates, because that would be quite delusional. Regardless, if you want to turn the tide to this topic I suggest the Politics section where you can rant about how unfair the media is to your political views. I personally don't spend all that much time paying attention to the national outlets and stick mostly with local, which are mostly right leaning.

[BBatesokc]

Had my latest reminder of what a badly run business the Oklahoman has become just a few minutes ago. Apparently revenue must be so good they don't really subscribers to renew their subscription.

I received a bill a few weeks ago and figured I'd better go online and pay. However, when I click to do the online payment it tells me I could be better served by one of their customer service staff members if I called in - it gives me the phone number and will not give me the option to pay online. I called the number 478-7171. Literally it went like this....

1.) Press #2 regarding 'paper delivery'
2.) Then you get "Oklahoman Customer Service" - Press #5 to make a payment or ask questions about your account.
3.) You are transferred and the system announces, "You have been forwarded to a voice mail system and the person does not subscribe to this service and your session cannot be continued at this time. You are being transferred to an attendant.
4.) You are transferred for the third time. This transfer takes you right back to the recording in step #1.
5.) So, I go through steps 1-4 one more time to make sure it wasn't a fluke.
6.) When I end up back at step one again (for the second time), I choose to press #0 to be taken to the operator.
7.) This takes me right back to step 3 and the whole process starts all over again.

So, I hang up and dial the 'main number' - 475-3311. Guess, what? Its the exact same voice system that takes in the exact same loop.

I finally called back and pressed the option to be taken to 'classified advertising' figuring with the advent of Craigslist those employees probably are not very busy. Sure enough, I got someone who finally got me transferred to circulation and then billing.

And this is corporation whom we expect to get things right? Not gonna happen.

[kevinpate]

Ya make me glad I just sent my check.

We received a reminder the other day about renewing our 4 day a week option for another year (Wed + Fri-Sun).
I happened to be writing a couple of checks at the time it arrived so I wrote one to DO as well.

I tend to only read it online anymore, but my lovely prefers to hold a paper still. We both use the casual dining savings available via The Club or whatever they call it (which far exceeds the small annual subscriber fee.)

[BBatesokc]

Ya make me glad I just sent my check.

We received a reminder the other day about renewing our 4 day a week option for another year (Wed + Fri-Sun).
I happened to be writing a couple of checks at the time it arrived so I wrote one to DO as well.

I tend to only read it online anymore, but my lovely prefers to hold a paper still. We both use the casual dining savings available via The Club or whatever they call it (which far exceeds the small annual subscriber fee.)

Yeah, if I hadn't lost the bill, I would have just mailed it in. Tried to pay online, but that went as well as the initial phone calls.

If my rate wasn't just $20/year for Wed, Fri, Sat, Sun and online 24/7 then I wouldn't bother with it. But, it makes for cheap grill and fireplace starter, plus I like the ads/coupons.

[OkieHornet]

how in the world do you have a $20/year subscription? isn't it usually closer to $200?

[BBatesokc]

how in the world do you have a $20/year subscription? isn't it usually closer to $200?

I bought a online deal a few years ago and they keep letting me renew it. They run those deals (based on zip code I'm told) on rare occasions.

[OkieHornet]

nice. that's a deal you can't let go.

[Bunty]

No joke. The Oklahoman takes shots at Democrats almost daily. Sometimes they are really reaching with their criticisms. It was starting to get better under former editor in chief Ed Kelley but once he left and Anshultz bought the paper, it has got much more conservative.

Democrats have a very limited voice in state government these days. So I think it's the duty of a paper to act like it's keeping close watch over the people who are in charge at the State Capitol, the Republicans.

[kevinpate]

Yeah, our renewal was either a 3rd or 4th go around.

Even if I sent the paper off to recycling unread, it's a good deal on the club dining coupons alone. Doesn't take many BOGO meals to put matters in the black, and one of the places is not far away. It's a fairly fast, tasty way to quash the 'aw, who wants to mess w/ cooking tonight' blues.