Newly Approved Projects Downtown

[ljbab728]

This involves too many different aspects to add to any one thread.

Downtown street improvements receive Oklahoma City Council approval | News OK

[ABryant]

$750,000 for sprucing up Bricktown.

"Sprucing up" is a strange descriptive term for an allocation of funds.

[catch22]

Wonder what those Bricktown improvements really are?

[ABryant]

maybe $750,000 dollars for spruce trees. Would make Bricktown rival the Sandridge forest.

Spruce - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Bellaboo]

Wonder what those Bricktown improvements really are?

Steve made the comment 'some rides are coming to Bricktown' in one of his chats. I remember when someone had proposed a giant merry-go-round a few years back......makes me wonder if something like this may happen ?

[Just the facts]

I saw that comment from Steve and thought it was strange. My first thought was the 'rides' in the Boathouse District, but maybe he meant something like cars or motorcycles. Maybe someone want to open a business renting/selling these around the core.

http://www.scootcoupe.com/

[Praedura]

Steve made the comment 'some rides are coming to Bricktown' in one of his chats. I remember when someone had proposed a giant merry-go-round a few years back......makes me wonder if something like this may happen ?

Maybe some rides are coming to Bricktown, but I doubt that's what the sprucing up is about. Probably means some outdoor planters and benches added along some streets. Maybe some paint touch-ups here and there. Possibly a few more strategically placed public trash cans. Possibly a few trees planted in some available spots. Maybe a few more informational signs. Etc, etc. -- stuff like that.

[AP]

Steve made the comment 'some rides are coming to Bricktown' in one of his chats. I remember when someone had proposed a giant merry-go-round a few years back......makes me wonder if something like this may happen ?

Oh man, I hope not. 'Sprucing up' is a term I would used to describe throwing some paint on something, not improvemnts to a major downtown district. I hope whatever is done is a quality improvement.

[kevinpate]

$750,000 for sprucing up Bricktown.

"Sprucing up" is a strange descriptive term for an allocation of funds.

A little paint here, a planter there and over yonder a ways, some signage, some striping and pretty soon you're back asking for another quarter mil because you dinna quite get r done.

[BDP]

A little paint here, a planter there and over yonder a ways, some signage, some striping and pretty soon you're back asking for another quarter mil because you dinna quite get r done.

Nah, they'll need another quarter mil for the third party consultant they hire to tell them what needs to be "spruced", which they will of course ignore.

Seriously, though, 750k really just sounds like a bunch of patch work, which is fine. You gotta constantly take care of it or entropy takes hold.

[Rover]

Entropy? That is a thermodynamics term for a heat movement algorithm. Do you mean atrophy?

[Just the facts]

Entropy can generally be simplified as the transition from order to disorder which is the foundation for the direction of time. In other words, given enough time everything will decay to an unusable state. It takes constant maintenance to counter-act entropy (which is why suburban sprawl tends to become a rolling ghetto as 'new' places are built and funding shifts) or in the case of uban cores - revolution, in which order is restored to a previously disordered system.

Entropy

[Rover]

Interesting take on applying the definition. However, I see what you are saying. In the Bricktown case, it seems more like disrepair is the issue rather than disorder evolving from order. Degrading is different than disorder. Bricktown, or any entertainment first district needs to keep evolving and being fresh. Otherwise, people tend to go to the newer, fresher, more exciting entertainment areas. One would hope the BT merchants and owners would fill this requirement rather than to go back to the public till.

[Just the facts]

Revolution doesn't come free. However, with funding coming from a TIF district which is by defenition tax money collected from within the district then you might says they are directly supporting themselves. There is an idea within the new urbanist community that thinks tax revenue should be shared across the entire metro area. The theory is that Moore would be less inclined to approve large shopping centers if they didn't have a preceived financial advantage to do so (a WalMart in Moore would produce no more tax revenue for Moore than if the WalMart was built in Edmond). I think the exact opposite approach is better - keep all tax revenue local (and by local I mean at the neighborhood level). OKC should contain 100 TIF districts which would stop sprawl dead in its tracks because each neighborhood would have to be self-supporting and the ones that are best at it would receive the most benefit. Good quality cost-effective development would prevail and substandard wasteful development would die.

[Romulack]

[Anonymous.]

lol

[rezman]

$750 K probably won't go very far, but we could use that money to take care of some of the "Entropy" on our road in far NE Okc.

[Praedura]

Hah! That's great.

To borrow a line from Donny and Marie: the one on the left is a little bit country, and the one on the right is a little bit rock-n-roll.

[BDP]

$750 K probably won't go very far, but we could use that money to take care of some of the "Entropy" on our road in far NE Okc.

It probably would do less in that respect. Especially when you factor in the density and per capita use.

[BDP]

Do you mean atrophy?

No. But that probably would have been clearer.

[betts]

$750 K probably won't go very far, but we could use that money to take care of some of the "Entropy" on our road in far NE Okc.

How far east? Are you within city limits? And have you checked to see if it's scheduled to be improved with funds from the 2008 Bond issue? Those bonds are being sold as far out as 2017, I think. If you are within the city limits and your road is not scheduled for improvements, you might speak with your city councilman.

[Praedura]

atrophy? Isn't that what you get when you win a contest?

[Rover]

Yes, a contest for who can sit still the longest.

[s00nr1]

So if I'm reading this correctly, city funding for the Century Center renovation will run just north of $6.5 million?

[onthestrip]

So if I'm reading this correctly, city funding for the Century Center renovation will run just north of $6.5 million?

Thats what Im thinking. Before it was just $1.5mil to OPUBCO to move. Now its several million more for building and parking improvements. All for a company that is already located in OKC and is no threat to move out of town. This has me scratching my head.