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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptDave View Post
    That thing will be just as congested as it is today in a few years - very few. It is called induced demand and the automobile/highway building cabal (I kid - a little) has mastered this self fulfilling circle. We need to maintain what we have now for highway infrastructure and dedicate more time, effort, and capital to alternate modes of transportation.
    The middle lanes will cost drivers an arm and a leg in order to keep the speeds up. The free lanes will be bumper to bumper. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jn1780 View Post
    The middle lanes will cost drivers an arm and a leg in order to keep the speeds up. The free lanes will be bumper to bumper. Lol
    Yep, that's one major problem with this road. What's going to happen to the masses that can't afford the tolls day in and day out?

    It also bears repeating that this thing is being financed through some pretty complicated measures. This is a public/private road financed by about $1.4 billion in loans to be paid back with congestion pricing tolls that could be as high as 55 cents per mile in the "Lexus Lanes" (in comparison the John Kilpatrick Turnpike is about 8 cents/mile). The company operating this road is a Spanish company, Cintras, that has a shady track record. Oh, and it will be tolled for the next 50+ years.

    I wouldn't mind if OTA wanted to put in some toll lanes, but I can't think of a freeway in OK that has serious enough congestion to warrant that. Most of our problems are due to outdated designs and decades of deferred maintenance now taking their toll. Only way you can fix that is more money, really no way to get around it.

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