Sooners vs Longhorns

[BoulderSooner]

I am not saying that Jason White has better arm strength. What I am saying is that he threw a more accurate deep ball. This was a fact that was acknowledged by several analyzed / coaches.

There is a big difference between accuracy and arm strength.
I once knew somebody who would stand in the middle of the football field and throw the ball about 80 yards but it was anybody’s guess as to witch hash mark it would land on. He was a good boxer.
Josh Heupel had an comparitivly week arm but he was a very accurate thrower.

you didn't soonerdave did

and to kilgore ... that comment is laughable

[Bellaboo]

So do you disagree with my ranking of OU QBs? Why are you acting so hateful?

And I'm not the "know it all" saying that Barry Switzer doesn't know how to evaluate QBs.

I'm older than 30 and I'm not sniffing Landry's jock (incredibly offensive comment), I'm just pointing out that he's unfairly criticized given his performance, a statement that would garner a lot of agreement.

Okay,

Let's just disagree and move on, we do like the same team, maybe to a different degree though. I'll try not to be so offensive..........
There's no one that wants Landry to succeed more than I do, but I realize his limitations.

[soonerguru]

SoonerDave nailed it in saying Landry lacks a "sixth sense" or "it." Players rarely develop this over their careers. They seem to either have it or don't. Carson Palmer is an exception as everything just started to click for him his senior year. Landry has not been able to ever play at a consistently high level because when things aren't going well he tends to make mistakes, not big plays. There are exceptions to this (e.g., OSU 2010), but that's why Landry is frustrating. Having said that, I still appreciate what he's done. He's the 4th best QB of the Stoops era.

I actually disagree with the energy point. I felt like the entire OU team had great energy against Texas and FSU last season. The sidelines were hopping, the team was chomping at the bit to play (see the pre-game scuffles), but they couldn't sustain it for whatever reason (poor defensive scheming?). But I do like how the team looks right now. But based on Landry's past 3.5 years we should probably maintain a guarded optimism.

You are correct about last season. After beating FSU on the road (and Landry played great in that game) and demolishing Texas, OU looked like worldbeaters. Then, Fleming went down and we lost to Tech in one of the biggest defensive collapses in OU history, followed by another defensive collapse against Baylor. Then, Broyles went out and our offense lost more than a third of its production, preceded, of course, by Whaley going down to injury.

Those two losses are almost exclusively the result of the defensive collapse. Poor secondary and inconsistent linebacker play -- and, as you suggest -- possible scheme failures.

Add to that our inability to run against OSU and the loss of our passing game, and we notched yet another loss.

It was bizarre how strong and physical OU looked through midseason, only to fade down the stretch.

As we learned over the summer, there were associated "issues" with players, leading to suspensions of some and quitting by others.

Stoops talked about how much he likes this team's chemistry. It was disappointing seeing the lethargy they played with against K-State, but for now I'm a believer that they are focused and have what it takes to win out. Notre Dame and West Virginia will be tough, and in the Big 12, there are other potential land mines, but I'm keeping the faith for now.

[soonerguru]

10 seconds of googling showed that you just make up stuff: SI.com - 2005 NFL Draft - Mark Clayton

Did you think no one would check to see if you're just making up stuff?

He was tested at a high of 4.41 in a different run.

And what was Broyles' forty time?

[dankrutka]

And what was Broyles' forty time?

He ran a 4.46 after tearing his ACL, which is remarkable. Any difference is minor, but if you take out Broyles injury then I suspect he was slightly faster.

[ou48A]

This is the side of the OU-Texas game that you probably missed

Graphic language warning. NSFW

OU/Texas 2012: Red River Randomness - YouTube



LOL

[Spartan]

How can you seriously say that the quarterback with the most wins in OU history, owns a majority of school records, is overrated.

Because he was the starting quarterback at the time of the air raid longer than anyone else. A buddy of mine here in Ohio who joins us Okies for beer and football sometimes said the other day it felt like Landry Jones has been OU's qb since the start of time.. salient perception

[Spartan]

It was disappointing seeing the lethargy they played with against K-State,

Everyone snores against K-State... until the final score and it's "oh ****"

[bluedogok]

I am not saying that Jason White has better arm strength. What I am saying is that he threw a more accurate deep ball. This was a fact that was acknowledged by several analyzed / coaches.

Before he blew out his knees he was considered a better running QB than passer, he worked danged hard to become as good of a passing QB as he did. It is a shame that his knees were shot to the point at which he couldn't give the NFL a serious try.

Texas is a complete and utter mess, Mack retired in 2009 but has hung around to get his $5 million a year check. He had visions of riding off in the sunset of a National Championship until Colt McCoy was injured.

[SoonerDave]

Because he was the starting quarterback at the time of the air raid longer than anyone else. A buddy of mine here in Ohio who joins us Okies for beer and football sometimes said the other day it felt like Landry Jones has been OU's qb since the start of time.. salient perception

True, but there are many quarterbacks who have started for several years at a school and don't have the wins or associated records to go with them.

I don't see the "overrated" part. That is, I see plenty of people raining criticism, so I'm not sure who is out there "overrating" him. He's a fine quarterback, he has his limitations, and it just so happens he's not quite in the league of two Heisman winners that preceded him. I'm not sure if that's considered "overrating" because I used the term "fine quarterback," or "underappreciating" because I say "he has his limitations." Darned if ya do, darned if ya don't

[SoonerDave]

Before he blew out his knees he was considered a better running QB than passer, he worked danged hard to become as good of a passing QB as he did. It is a shame that his knees were shot to the point at which he couldn't give the NFL a serious try.

Texas is a complete and utter mess, Mack retired in 2009 but has hung around to get his $5 million a year check. He had visions of riding off in the sunset of a National Championship until Colt McCoy was injured.

This.

Mack made the mistake of listening to his fan base a little too much two years ago, and he's brought in at least one, and possibly two, coordinators that are over their head. Whether Mack returns next year may depend on how UT finishes out, but if he does return, I can't fathom Diaz coming back under any circumstances. As I mentioned in an earlier post, Mack's already cleaned house once, and doing so again would just reek of desperation that would reflect poorly not just on him, but on the program. If Mack goes, I think UT really ought to try to snag John Gruden out of "retirement."

[ou48A]

Big TEX Burns down…… No joke

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[Pete]

Oh the symbolism!


Sad for Big Tex but I'm sure he'll be re-built.

[Pete]

Photo:

[ou48A]

Did the Horn fans confuse Big Tex with a Mack Brown effigy?

[ou48A]

I guess they really do FRY everything at the State Fair of Texas...

[ou48A]

Big TEX will be replaced with a statue of Bob Stoops since he now owns Fair Park.
What will the Texans tell their kids?

[Just the facts]

I guess he couldn't take it any more and ended it all.

[Just the facts]

Big TEX will be replaced with a statue of Bob Stoops since he now owns Fair Park.
What will the Texans tell their kids?

They will say, "There is a statue of the best coach in Texas."

[Snowman]

He only looks slightly more creepy on fire than it did on a normal day.

Photo:

Some photoshopped images from a Texas site

[Just the facts]

Definite Darth Vader thing going on there.

[Pete]

These images will provide fark fodder for decades.

The timing of it is just too perfect.

[MonkeesFan]

Does not matter anyway, they said they will rebuild it bigger and better

[Dustin]

Does not matter anyway, they said they will rebuild it bigger and better

Not a very smart move if you ask me... It's just gonna get burned down again next year. Boomer.

[Stan Silliman]

Big Tex: "Howdy, folks. Yes, I said the Longhorns would win. I guess that makes me 'Liar, Liar, pants on Fire.' Folks, that's just a figure of speech... That's just a ..."