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    Seattle given OK for new basketball, hockey arena - NBA - CBSSports.com News, Scores, Stats, Fantasy Advice

    I am happy for their fans but the question is that will the Sacramento Kings move to Seattle?

    However I think Seattle should just have a expansion team instead of moving a team to Seattle but then again it would uneven in the division with 6 teams while the others have 5 teams in the divison

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    Just guesstimating cause I don't skim articles... We're still looking at 2+ years, right? Technically, it'll never be the Supersonics cause they still will be without KD, lol, and that will be their biggest gripe cause they see what this team down here is doing. Not to say that it would have gone the exact same way there but they're hard up for dreams in the Pacific NW and harp on the "what ifs"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OKCisOK4me View Post
    Just guesstimating cause I don't skim articles... We're still looking at 2+ years, right? Technically, it'll never be the Supersonics cause they still will be without KD, lol, and that will be their biggest gripe cause they see what this team down here is doing. Not to say that it would have gone the exact same way there but they're hard up for dreams in the Pacific NW and harp on the "what ifs"...
    Yeah but the Thunder-Sonics is going to be a great rivalry for sure.....

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    Oh, no doubt. It'll be like an intercontinental, USA vs. the USRR post Cold War who's gonna push the button first reaction battle series...

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    Seattle wouldn't receive an expansion team without another one being added with them. To make an even 32 teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OKCisOK4me View Post
    Oh, no doubt. It'll be like an intercontinental, USA vs. the USRR post Cold War who's gonna push the button first reaction battle series...
    Yeah, exactly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    Seattle wouldn't receive an expansion team without another one being added with them. To make an even 32 teams.
    Kansas City, word up!! If Mark Cuban couldn't hold back a team settling in here, then there's no way Chicago can do anything about Missouri. KC could handle the task...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OKCisOK4me View Post
    Kansas City, word up!!
    That's exactly what I was thinking. The Sprint Center would hold a team nicely.

    Add one team to the Eastern Conference (Kansas City) one to the Western Conference (Seattle)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    That's exactly what I was thinking. The Sprint Center would hold a team nicely.

    Add one team to the Eastern Conference (Kansas City) one to the Western Conference (Seattle)
    Correct me if I am wrong, did Kansas used to have a basketball team before they moved to Sacramento? If so, it would be nice to bring back the old name and colors back in Kansas where they belong, what was the team name?

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    Yeah, KC shared it initially with Omaha, and then got it in their own right. As far as I know, it was a pretty clear failure, which is why they moved to Sacramento.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk405359 View Post
    Yeah, KC shared it initially with Omaha, and then got it in their own right. As far as I know, it was a pretty clear failure, which is why they moved to Sacramento.
    Hmm....thinking that is a failure, maybe they should not move back, I mean look at Los Angeles, there was the Los Angeles Raiders and Los Angles Rams, they both moved out of Los Angles since it did not work out and now since Los Angeles is getting a new football stadium, the Raiders or Rams might move back to Los Angeles and it might not work out again although I would like to see the Rams move back where they belong but this is probably a bad example though....

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    It probably won't happen by the recently elected Jacksonville Mayor has put an NBA team at the top of his wish list, and he doesn't seem too interested in keeping the Jags around. He actually sent them a lease termination notice awhile back. Meanwhile, the Jags will be playing 4 home games in London over the next 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    Seattle wouldn't receive an expansion team without another one being added with them. To make an even 32 teams.
    Most everything that has been said is that there is no way the league is expanding anytime soon, if they get a team it is moving from somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    It probably won't happen by the recently elected Jacksonville Mayor has put an NBA team at the top of his wish list, and he doesn't seem too interested in keeping the Jags around. He actually sent them a lease termination notice awhile back. Meanwhile, the Jags will be playing 4 home games in London over the next 4 years.
    I do not see the Jaguars moving for some reason

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    First, as was said, there will be no NBA expansion any time soon. So, Seattle has to get a team from somewhere else. There's a possibility that their arena could not have a tenant for a while so welcomming the Sonics back is jumping the gun. It could be 10-15 years before there's an opportunity to get an NBA team (or they could the Sonics in 2 years). Second, Kansas City is one of the most oversaturated sports markets in the country. That would be a terrible place to start a team with significant chance of failure. Third, Thunder up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    It probably won't happen by the recently elected Jacksonville Mayor has put an NBA team at the top of his wish list, and he doesn't seem too interested in keeping the Jags around. He actually sent them a lease termination notice awhile back. Meanwhile, the Jags will be playing 4 home games in London over the next 4 years.
    he did not send them a lease termination notice ... they have an iron clad lease until 2030 ..

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    Sure seems like everything I read indicates the Jags aren't happy in Jacksonville, and Jacksonville isn't just doing handsprings over the Jags. Very much a case, I think, of a city that just wasn't a right fit for the NFL from the get-go. Really a good cautionary tale for folks in OKC that think an NFL team should be our next pro sports objective...

    On the NBA in KC: KC is a really good football town (with a lousy team), a decent but somewhat struggling baseball town, and I'm not at all sure how well the NBA would fit there, especially given that it has already failed there once before (granted it was a while back).

    If they did expand the NBA, which I think is really unlikely right now, I'd bet dollars to donuts they're realign the conferences and put OKC in a better geographic fit than having to traverse the west coast teams. Heck, they may opt to do that anyway

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    This isn't a done deal, the Seattle Longshore union is threatening lawsuits against the buildings location. Also, there are environmental issues. This could take years to resolve before they could break ground, then it's another two years of construction. The only viable team that is in trouble at the moment is the Kings. And they could end up in Anaheim at the Honda Center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    he did not send them a lease termination notice ... they have an iron clad lease until 2030 ..
    Yes he (the City) did. It is only 'iron clad' if both sides abide by the lease.

    Jacksonville mayor to Shahid Khan: City has no intention of terminating Jaguars' lease | firstcoastnews.com

    JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- After receiving a letter from the City of Jacksonville Jaguars owner Shad Khan on Thursday asking the city to withdraw a lease default letter, Mayor Alvin Brown promptly wrote back and said the city does not want to terminate the Jaguars' lease.

    "Let me be crystal clear: the City of Jacksonville has absolutely no intention whatsoever of terminating its lease with the Jacksonville Jaguars," Brown wrote in a response to Khan.
    ...

    "Immediately upon our advising the City of our recommended selection, your lawyer delivered to the Jaguars organization a default letter putting in motion a termination of our lease," Khan wrote.



    ...

    Khan had said if the lease default letter was not withdrawn, it could put the Jaguars future in Jacksonville in jeopardy.

    "If the default letter is indeed only the sentiment of your lawyer and not your thoughts toward the continued activities of the Jaguars in Jacksonville, I would request that the default letter of May 25, 2012, be withdrawn immediately," Khan wrote in the letter.

    "Failing withdrawal of the default letter I must assume the City intends to proceed with the default and termination of our lease. As previously stated we are not in a position to take any action to "cure" a nonexistent default."



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    Quote Originally Posted by OKCisOK4me View Post
    Kansas City, word up!! If Mark Cuban couldn't hold back a team settling in here, then there's no way Chicago can do anything about Missouri. KC could handle the task...
    KC is the most over-saturated sports market ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan View Post
    KC is the most over-saturated sports market ever
    Denver is also, the Nuggets and Rockies rarely sell out.

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    According to pro-sports market data KC is the most over saturated city.

    Study: Kansas City saturated with professional sports - Kansas City Business Journal

    Existing professional teams have exhausted Kansas City’s economic capacity to add sports franchises, according to a study by American City Business Journals.

    The Kansas City region’s total personal income falls short by $57 billion of what’s needed to support the city’s existing teams, the study said.

    “It’s another reason you’re going to have an uphill battle filling the Sprint Center,” sports business analyst Neil deMause, author of “Field of Schemes,” said Tuesday.

    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman View Post
    ... if they get a team it is moving from somewhere else.
    If there is a fan base and group of city officials out there that care less about supporting their current team than Seattle would be willing to support bringing in that team to become the resurrection of the Sonics brand ... so be it, and best wishes to both of those cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan View Post
    KC is the most over-saturated sports market ever
    I can't help their unemployment rate. They have 2 major league teams..and IM not gonna include MLS in that. With their MSA there is no reason they can't handle the task. Then again...what do I know? Wishful thinking I guess!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OKCisOK4me View Post
    I can't help their unemployment rate. They have 2 major league teams..and IM not gonna include MLS in that. With their MSA there is no reason they can't handle the task. Then again...what do I know? Wishful thinking I guess!
    Did you read the study above? Yes, it's wishful thinking and there's a detailed study to prove it.

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