Who knew! haha
Who knew! haha
Yeah there are more incidents at Penn and Quail than people realize. You're probabaly safer actually at Crossroads! LOL
Penn Square mall is mentioned in a 8/8/2010 court document outlining how local human traffickers and pimps Mario Diaz and Germaine Coulter were utilizing the mall to lure teen girls into their prostitution ring.
Wow.
How many people were employed at the GM plant? I wonder if it's not a case of between GM shutting down with all those jobs leaving town, and the Kilpatrick Turnpike making it easier for all that southwest OKC population to get to the Quail Springs area, that Crossroads didn't stand a chance. I know a lot of people who live south of I-40 and west of Council that used to go to Crossroads, and most stopped as soon as the KT came down to SW 15th street. That was even before JCP and Dillard's left. All those houses are 3,000+ sq feet, and there are hundreds of them. It would be interesting to see if there is demographic data to support that hypothesis.
Expantion of retail options in Moore and Norman probably have more to do with it than GM, there are more people employed in the GM building now with at least as good of salaries with aerospace work as when it was a manufacturing cars. More still are in the area since the southwest corner of tinker houses many engineering jobs in offices that did not exist a few years ago.
Living in Yukon I can tell you Quail was easier to get to than Crossroads after Lake Hefner Parkway opened for anyone on the west side withing a couple miles south of i40 so the Kilpatrick should not have been an issue, besides Crossroads was already in major decline before the constructed of the north/south portion of the turnpike anyway, Penn Square is also closer than either.
The Crossroads situation is mostly due to demographics in the surrounding area. The same thing happened to Eastland Mall in Charlotte. If the same mall was a few miles south in Moore it likely would still be viable, though not sure for how much longer. In 2012, the only malls really doing well are the upscale ones. Quail Springs is holding its own but if an "upscale lifestyle center" ever gets built in far north OKC or Edmond, it could be in jeopardy.
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Is the AMC theater across the mall dead? I have not been there in years
Nope, still active.
I guess maybe less active?
The Crossroads Regal isn't very old as far as I know. They built it in the early '00s and it was pretty nice for the time. It's good to hear it hasn't gone away yet but it probably will with the way everything else surrounding crossroads is dying. Is there any outparcels there still doing well?
So far as I know, both the Regal and the dollar theater out in the southeast hinterlands of the CRM parking lot are both still drawing decent crowds. Texas Roadhouse and the hotels do well. As for the strip that long ago used to be Luby's, D-Zone and retail, I haven't gone by there and looked for quite a while, but it seemed quite barren the last time I did circle through.
Everytime I passed by Crossroads on the way to work, it makes me want to puke, I just wish the eyesore mall would be bullrazored and turn into something nice
But it is a wonderful piece of architecture that must be saved! o wait, this isn't the Stage Center thread, my bad.
Yeah, OKC could bulldoze it like Kansas City closed down Bannister Mall (due to a history of violence) and then bulldozed it. It's one ugly area when you drive by on I-435 now--they were suppose to build a new MLS stadium there for the KC Wiz, but I guess the deal fell through for whatever reason. Point is, maybe OKC is trying to take something from the KC experience and wait until something concrete comes to fruition.
Also, there is a bridal show there this Sunday, so it isn't going anywhere fast.
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