Classen Curve

[Pete]

We also know that Whole Foods is doing dynamite business, so there is good data for other national retailers considering the city and that specific area.

[ChargerAg]

We also know that Whole Foods is doing dynamite business, so there is good data for other national retailers considering the city and that specific area.

Anyword on when the other stores will be opening or what they might be? I wouldn't think there could be much left on the construction part.

[sooner88]

Is Tucker's going in next to Liberte? I drove through today and that looked like the only possibility, although it looked like little had been done. As I was driving through it I had forgotten how much is still empty. Is there not any pressure at all to fill these? I know they are trying to bring in a specific clientele, but I would have assumed after how much time they have had that it would have been filled, maybe just me.

[tuck]

Is Tucker's going in next to Liberte? I drove through today and that looked like the only possibility, although it looked like little had been done. As I was driving through it I had forgotten how much is still empty. Is there not any pressure at all to fill these? I know they are trying to bring in a specific clientele, but I would have assumed after how much time they have had that it would have been filled, maybe just me.

Tucker's will be in the corner space directly south of the pond near Red Coyote.

[Pete]

Tuck, will you be on the north corner of that building (by the pond) or the south corner (by the patio)?

[tuck]

North corner by the pond. Our hope is that guests will utilize that patio and the walls near the pond to enjoy an onion burger and shake.

[Pete]

I've heard from a very reliable source that McClendon/Chesapeake gave Whole Foods big, big incentives to open that location.

The word is that they are only paying rent as a percentage of sales over a particular threshold. Probably paid for their tenant improvements as well.

[Pete]

This is the new Tucker's location at CC.

You can see that back section is still largely vacant:

[Just the facts]

Holy Crap!!! Not good.

[Spartan]

I've come to the conclusion, after thinking a lot about it in the other CHK thread, that Aubrey may just need to get another architect. I think this is failed architecture.

[jdcf]

I may be in the minority but very much like the design of CC and surrounding development. I still think things are stagnant primarily because of continued limitations in the national economy.

[Larry OKC]

Refresh my memory, but is it primarily for national chain stores are local businesses? If national, what jdcf is saying could make sense, if local, not so much. And if that is the case it is either the lack of stores that people want to visit, the design of the place which isn't inviting to those driving by and not knowing what it is or something else?

[onthestrip]

Refresh my memory, but is it primarily for national chain stores are local businesses? If national, what jdcf is saying could make sense, if local, not so much. And if that is the case it is either the lack of stores that people want to visit, the design of the place which isn't inviting to those driving by and not knowing what it is or something else?

People have claimed that it was always intended to be for local tenants, which I dont buy. When it was announced it was heralded as a new center that would attract new (to OKC), upscale retailers. Due to its bad design, it has basically had to siphon off existing tenants from nearby shopping centers and added a couple more stores along with some restaurants (that chew up all the parking no less). And to try to say its only for locals is foolish on Aubreys/chesapeakes part. You always want a good mix of strong national retailers mixed with local unique shops. If he has turned down some national tenants because he wants to keep it local then Aubrey is a bigger fool than I thought.

[dankrutka]

I think it was mentioned that hey turned down Chipotle or something similar at one point. It seems that it's almost exclusively for locals. You just have to realize that when Aubrey has a vision that reality does not matter to him anymore. He's going to try to do it anyway.

[Spartan]

I may be in the minority but very much like the design of CC and surrounding development. I still think things are stagnant primarily because of continued limitations in the national economy.

Retail has expanded like crazy all over the metro lately.

[Pete]

I wanted to point out that this development was built in 2008.

It's almost four years old now and still has a lot of vacancy, despite all types of incentives from the owners, including moving over some of their own tenants from NH Plaza.

[Pete]

Tucker's in Classen Curve had a preview today and opens to the public on Friday:

[Praedura]

That warehouse/industrial look isn't really my cup of tea.

But hey, the people in the pic look happy, so what do I know.

[Pete]

LOVE their food, both the burgers and fries.

I think it's way better than Smashburger and 5 Guys.

[progressiveboy]

I may be in the minority but very much like the design of CC and surrounding development. I still think things are stagnant primarily because of continued limitations in the national economy.

I too love the design and aesthetics. It is not your typical cookie cutter shopping center destination found all over OKC. Very sleek and modern!

[Pete]

I like the design and agree it's unique and pretty sharp. In addition, all the store build-outs are well above standard and for the most part very interesting.

It's the lack of street frontage and general layout of the center itself that is the real issue IMO.

[Mr. Cotter]

Exciting about a new Tuckers.

I like the look of CC, but it is an odd layout. Last week I had lunch at Upper Crust, and needed to pick up something from the Shave Shop. I drove between two places in the same center, and I shouldn't have to do that.

[BoulderSooner]

Exciting about a new Tuckers.

I like the look of CC, but it is an odd layout. Last week I had lunch at Upper Crust, and needed to pick up something from the Shave Shop. I drove between two places in the same center, and I shouldn't have to do that.

they are at the 100% opposite ends of the same development ... you would not have walked not matter what development they were in

[Mr. Cotter]

I have shopped in much larger developments that didn't require moving my car to visit two stores on opposite ends. Not every storefront needs parking directly in front of it. CC is too long to work as a cohesive development.

[metro]

they are at the 100% opposite ends of the same development ... you would not have walked not matter what development they were in

I don't agree with this, I walk the entire Utica Square because of the layout.